See, Vera? Dress yourself up; you get taken out somewhere fun.

Jayne ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Nov 11, 2011 4:43:13 pm PST #6121 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And now the camera person is completely walking away from the crowd. This feed, by the way, is from the local ABC affiliate.


Strix - Nov 11, 2011 4:44:52 pm PST #6122 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I'm trying, smonster. It's still pretty newish territory for me, but we rub along real well. I set clear boundaries, always explain, give lots of love and physical affection. I'm pretty strict about things like manners and lying, but I am also a big doof who likes water guns and plastic swords fights.

Hil, I'm pleased to hear there's a large presence at the vigil.

Re: crises -- yeah, a responder has to be CALM in an emergency. Freaking out just sets others off, and can escalate stuff. Plus, it wastes time that can be essential. I can overreact to small, niggly stuff sometimes, but I am pretty damned clearheaded in a crisis. I like that about me, but it's something I've learned.

That said, WTR to a situation like the Penn case, my crisis response, had I been the witness, would not have been calm at all, I'm afraid; it would have been quite visceral. Perhaps in more ways than one.


§ ita § - Nov 11, 2011 4:48:31 pm PST #6123 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Individuals are supposed to do a lot better.

Yes, but I don't see any evidence those guys were acting like individuals, even when they were alone in the room.


Strix - Nov 11, 2011 4:53:25 pm PST #6124 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Wow, tommyrot, that was a cool list! The only one I knew about was the first woman.


smonster - Nov 11, 2011 4:53:33 pm PST #6125 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

What ita ! said. It's the dark side of deep loyalty.


le nubian - Nov 11, 2011 4:57:25 pm PST #6126 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

my only point in bringing that up is that your example probably isn't the right one for the Penn State situation. From my understanding, that line of research refers to why people in crowds (like bystanders when someone falls ill at a mall or something) often watch and wait for another to take action - although even this research doesn't show that it happens all the time. The converse isn't necessarily true.

In the PSU situation, a different set of social pressures are at work. Over-identification with institution would be where I'd begin.


Jessica - Nov 11, 2011 5:06:12 pm PST #6127 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Everyday Food -- it's got great ideas for fast/easy stuff.

I always wind up buying this in the checkout line. I should probably just bite the bullet and subscribe.


Stephanie - Nov 11, 2011 5:24:07 pm PST #6128 of 30001
Trust my rage

ANyone here have any experience with removing gel nail polish? The manicurist who put it on said to take it off like normal but its not coming off. And I looked online but they mention soaking your fingers in acetone for a long time. Which I really don't want to do.


SuziQ - Nov 11, 2011 5:25:57 pm PST #6129 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Stephanie - I have tried to remove it at home and was not successful, even with acetone.


sarameg - Nov 11, 2011 5:35:40 pm PST #6130 of 30001

I do fake nails myself, and the only surefire removal is acetone. 'Normal' to a manicurist is probably straight up acetone, not any alternative remover. And it isn't that long with acetone. For my fakes (which are probably thicker than a gel) the total time from sticking my fingers in acetone to putting a final coat on the new fakes is an hour. So maybe 10 minutes a hand to remove, so less than that for you? Helps if you scrub/scrape in situ.