This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 09, 2011 5:26:07 am PST #5535 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Cain refers to himself in the third person. He's always done that. It's like a split personality. "Herman Cain does not harass women." "Herman Cain is a businessman."

Bob Dole approves of that quirk.


Fred Pete - Nov 09, 2011 5:26:20 am PST #5536 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Also, the NY Times seems to have just noticed that Cain refers to himself in the third person. He's always done that. It's like a split personality. "Herman Cain does not harass women." "Herman Cain is a businessman."

Herman Cain has taken lessons from Robert Dole....


Fred Pete - Nov 09, 2011 5:26:34 am PST #5537 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Teppy, great minds and all that.


brenda m - Nov 09, 2011 5:26:49 am PST #5538 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It's like a split personality. "Herman Cain does not harass women." "Herman Cain is a businessman."

Well, it could be a neat trick for denialbility. I'm sure in 7 billion people around there world there is at least one Herman Cain who does not in fact harrass women. It just doesn't happen to be this one.


Ginger - Nov 09, 2011 5:31:24 am PST #5539 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I just wish people would stop saying Cain can't possibly be the nominee. It gives me the same shudder as when someone says, "Nothing else can go wrong."


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2011 5:39:06 am PST #5540 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Good god. I got one thing to do before I can check out, and I'm getting pushback. How will the developers extract the needed data from the spreadsheets? I dunno. I think they'll develop. Can we just give them the fucking spreadsheets already? With instructions?


Theodosia - Nov 09, 2011 5:39:19 am PST #5541 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I had a lousy night of not-quite-sleep, so I'm going in late. Hadn't heard all that much about Paterno and the rest of it, but it went onto my "avoid sports news at all costs" filter until now.

Too right about the Cain reaction -- every time someone tries to make a point about the "anonymous women accusing him" I want to ask what part of "non-disclosure agreement" do they not understand? Given the nastiness that Sharon Bialek is already receiving, I believe I would count myself lucky to be out of it if I were one of those women.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 09, 2011 5:40:14 am PST #5542 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

People I know really like him. People who will be harmed by the 9 9 9 thing, as far as I can tell. They say he seems like he doesn't take any shit.


le nubian - Nov 09, 2011 5:42:45 am PST #5543 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, what is the overlap between people who like Cain and those who liked Sarah Palin 3 years ago?


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 5:44:37 am PST #5544 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hil - I hope that there are some "dump Joe" protesters too.

There have been. There was one alum yesterday who burned his diploma, saying he didn't want to be associated with a university that protects child molesters, and there have been some students calling for Joe to resign. There are far more supporting him, though -- at least, supporting him publicly like that. Most of the conversations I've overheard among students have been along the lines of "Yeah, it's sad to end it this way, but he screwed up and ought to resign," but they haven't been too vocal publicly.

Everyone around here kind of seems in shock. The integrity of the football program has been a point of pride -- one of the highest graduation rates, no scandals with players taking bribes, pretty few cases of players getting in trouble with the law -- and it's always been said that Joe Paterno is the one to thank for that, because he keeps the program in line and makes sure he recruits players who are decent people and not just good players. I don't know how true that is, but it's what I've heard from practically everyone around here, repeated as if it's common knowledge. Everyone's kind of shocked that a guy who has a reputation for not tolerating drinking or fighting or too much partying from his players would allow something like this to go on with one of his coaches.