Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Nov 09, 2011 5:39:19 am PST #5541 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I had a lousy night of not-quite-sleep, so I'm going in late. Hadn't heard all that much about Paterno and the rest of it, but it went onto my "avoid sports news at all costs" filter until now.

Too right about the Cain reaction -- every time someone tries to make a point about the "anonymous women accusing him" I want to ask what part of "non-disclosure agreement" do they not understand? Given the nastiness that Sharon Bialek is already receiving, I believe I would count myself lucky to be out of it if I were one of those women.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 09, 2011 5:40:14 am PST #5542 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

People I know really like him. People who will be harmed by the 9 9 9 thing, as far as I can tell. They say he seems like he doesn't take any shit.


le nubian - Nov 09, 2011 5:42:45 am PST #5543 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, what is the overlap between people who like Cain and those who liked Sarah Palin 3 years ago?


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 5:44:37 am PST #5544 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hil - I hope that there are some "dump Joe" protesters too.

There have been. There was one alum yesterday who burned his diploma, saying he didn't want to be associated with a university that protects child molesters, and there have been some students calling for Joe to resign. There are far more supporting him, though -- at least, supporting him publicly like that. Most of the conversations I've overheard among students have been along the lines of "Yeah, it's sad to end it this way, but he screwed up and ought to resign," but they haven't been too vocal publicly.

Everyone around here kind of seems in shock. The integrity of the football program has been a point of pride -- one of the highest graduation rates, no scandals with players taking bribes, pretty few cases of players getting in trouble with the law -- and it's always been said that Joe Paterno is the one to thank for that, because he keeps the program in line and makes sure he recruits players who are decent people and not just good players. I don't know how true that is, but it's what I've heard from practically everyone around here, repeated as if it's common knowledge. Everyone's kind of shocked that a guy who has a reputation for not tolerating drinking or fighting or too much partying from his players would allow something like this to go on with one of his coaches.


Jesse - Nov 09, 2011 5:48:13 am PST #5545 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This is so interesting -- a flyer for the first birth control clinic in the US, in 1916 in Brooklyn. [link] The text is in English, Hebrew, and Italian.


sumi - Nov 09, 2011 5:51:10 am PST #5546 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hil - that's what the media are saying in general. That's the Penn State reputation. I haven't spoken to my relatives who are Penn State grads to get their reaction. (Most of them are not too football inclined.)

Article on the disappearance of the former district attorney. Very odd.


Ginger - Nov 09, 2011 5:51:36 am PST #5547 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

He's been a radio talk show host here for the last few years and before that had a unsuccessful run to be the Republican nominee for the Senate. He has an astonishingly simplistic view of the world and no idea how government works. He called the Obama health care plan "treason" repeatedly.


Kathy A - Nov 09, 2011 5:54:29 am PST #5548 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Our president is really good with kids.


Steph L. - Nov 09, 2011 5:55:15 am PST #5549 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

There have been. There was one alum yesterday who burned his diploma, saying he didn't want to be associated with a university that protects child molesters, and there have been some students calling for Joe to resign.

Penn State's President, Graham Spanier, was also made aware of Sandusky's actions: [link] I agree with the author that Spanier as well as Paterno should lose their jobs over this.


le nubian - Nov 09, 2011 6:02:42 am PST #5550 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Paterno has announced retirement, but I am hoping the victims/victims families sue Paterno, the president and the Board of Trustees.