Honestly, you meet the most appalling sort of people....

Giles ,'Chosen'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Nov 08, 2011 3:13:08 pm PST #5487 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A timeline of the case is here: [link]

(The district attorney mentioned in the 1998 entry, who decided not to file criminal charges, went missing in 2005 and was declared dead this past summer.)


Amy - Nov 08, 2011 3:14:42 pm PST #5488 of 30001
Because books.

(The district attorney mentioned in the 1998 entry, who decided not to file criminal charges, went missing in 2005 and was declared dead this past summer.)

That's sort of creepy.


sumi - Nov 08, 2011 3:19:27 pm PST #5489 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, a bizarre footnote to a very disgusting story.

So - all the adults from the Grad Student on up should have called the cops and didn't?


brenda m - Nov 08, 2011 3:20:43 pm PST #5490 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I also saw the statement that Paterno fulfilled his "legal obligation", which maybe he did. But he didn't fulfill his moral obligation.

One thing that hasn't been clear (to me) is if any of the others are mandatory reporters.

Pattern and The grad student at least came clean to the grand jury. The others did not, which is one of the main reasons for the indictments.


Hil R. - Nov 08, 2011 3:24:10 pm PST #5491 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

One thing that hasn't been clear (to me) is if any of the others are mandatory reporters.

I think that Curley and Schultz, the two administrators who've been charged with failure to report and perjury, were.


le nubian - Nov 08, 2011 3:27:13 pm PST #5492 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay, so when isn't it mandatory for someone to report to the fucking police when a child is being raped?

This isn't a rumor, the act was witnessed - on university grounds.


Hil R. - Nov 08, 2011 3:35:30 pm PST #5493 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Okay, so when isn't it mandatory for someone to report to the fucking police when a child is being raped?

I don't think that there's generally a law saying that you have to report a crime you witnessed. Doctors, teachers, clergy, and other people who officially supervise kids are legally required to report any suspicion of abuse, though. By the way the law is worded, the university administrators are covered under that, but the coaching staff is not.


Hil R. - Nov 08, 2011 3:38:43 pm PST #5494 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

According to this [link] , there are 16 states where everyone is required to report suspected child abuse. The other states only require certain professionals to report it.


le nubian - Nov 08, 2011 3:45:52 pm PST #5495 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Unbelievable. You'd have to pry my ass away from the cops for me NOT to report that kind of crime.

I mean, really.


Stephanie - Nov 08, 2011 3:47:46 pm PST #5496 of 30001
Trust my rage

Okay, so when isn't it mandatory for someone to report to the fucking police when a child is being raped

I assumed this was said sarcastically.

I love my job but it brings me in contact with a lot of child abuse/rape and it is horrifying to me both how common it is and how little happens to those who do it.