I didn't get married till 25, and it's been just the two of us. There were some issues re: kids, but I was adamant that we were going to much more financially and living arrangements secure before bringing kids into the mix, and if it didn't happen by the time I hit 30, then it wasn't going to happen. I got a lot of pushback from in-laws, but being unmovable on that was the smartest thing I've done in this life. Trying to cope with pre-teens when Hubby's health collapsed would probably have broken me.

My friend's band was touring with them, so I thought maybe I could ping him and have him ping them for you, but they just finished their stint, looks like. Musicians can be flaky. Give it some time, it may still come together.

Oh, I would totally want to if it happens!!

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I'm going to be traveling with my mom, so foreign nookie is off the table

I was gonna say...there are definitely ways, and moms have ways of being clueless when it's in their interest to be so. At least mine does.

I feel like I've joined the 21st century! Sox and I just did a video hangout on G+. Very cool. Almost as good as F2F.

I am still Facebook friends with most of them, and they're still married. Two of them I'm close enough with to know they're actually very genuinely happy.

I'm really glad to hear that, and I'm sorry if it sounded like I was ragging on your friends.

I definitely want marriage and kids and all that, but I've never really had a long-term relationship. I don't really think I have too many requirements for what future husband will be like -- the one big thing is that he be willing to raise future kids Jewish, since I know that I'm not going to compromise on that one. (Willing to raise future kids vegan would be great, but I've got much more room to compromise on that.) Also, I refuse to date someone who physically recoils when I mention the word "math."

The restaurant I'm at serves mac and cheese pizza. The guy at the cash couldn't assure me it would taste good.

Nah, it didn't sound like that at all, Kate! It was a legitimate question. I didn't frame them very well - they're not unlikable or shallow. They just really wanted to be married and took the conventional steps to make it happen. While they were dancing on Saturday nights in the Marina trying to meet cute men, I was off with my dogs on solo camping trips staring at the stars through a telescope.

I feel like I've joined the 21st century! Sox and I just did a video hangout on G+. Very cool. Almost as good as F2F.

Ha. You guys live so near each other...

Musicians can be flaky. Give it some time, it may still come together.

I know. It's just frustrating. Partially because I catch a train to PDX tomorrow morning (at earlier than I've been lurching out of bed recently, so that's going to be interesting), so I am juggling stuff already.