Gavin, ask yourself this question. What are you more afraid of, a giant murderous demon or me?

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


SuziQ - Oct 26, 2011 12:18:09 pm PDT #3309 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I've been looking into getting K-Bug a KitchenAid for Christmas. In looking at their site, they have refurbished models on sale for a decent price. Does anyone have any experience with refurbished models? Anything I should look for/avoid?


Allyson - Oct 26, 2011 12:20:35 pm PDT #3310 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's the Atlantic, not FHM.


meara - Oct 26, 2011 12:20:54 pm PDT #3311 of 30001

I inherited my grandmother's kitchen aid. Lord knows how old it is (old enough that it is not a three-prong plug), but it works fine! I did at some point lose the meat grinder attachment she had. And I've never used the dough hook.


Ginger - Oct 26, 2011 12:23:37 pm PDT #3312 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I have my paternal grandmother's second-best china, which is also a cream-and-pink-rose pattern. I am rather of fond of it mostly because it has everything, including cream soups. My mother sold the first-best china, in part because we have inherited so much china and it was worth the most, but mostly because she always resented the fact that we weren't good enough for the good china.


tommyrot - Oct 26, 2011 12:25:40 pm PDT #3313 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Growing-up for goths

Punks grow out of it and ravers stop raving. Why do goths just carry on? Sociologists can explain

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Dr Paul Hodkinson, deputy head of Surrey University's sociology department and an expert in youth music subcultures, has been re-interviewing a group of goths he first studied in the late 1990s to find out. "They were teenagers and in their early 20s then, and I thought it would be interesting to go back because a number of people do stay involved in the goth scene," he explains.

Though many people who belong to youth subcultures such as punk and rave tend to drift away in their 20s, Hodkinson says it's more likely that older goths will want to remain involved in the scene, even though it may become harder to combine with the responsibilities that come with age.

To outsiders, it's the visual markers of being a goth – long, dyed-black hair, black clothes, pale faces contrasted with dark, dramatic eye make-up –that stand out. Taken on their own, these characteristics might be reasonably easy to cast off. However, Hodkinson says that although the aesthetic and clothing are important, the primary tenets of involvement in this subculture mean being "thoroughly passionate about goth music and style, and some goths would tell you they have an interest in the dark side of life, and a natural tendency towards a degree of angst".

This means a level of commitment to the goth scene, and friendship groups and identity that develop around being a goth, which result in social lives that "are so intertwined that it would feel very odd to leave it," he says.


flea - Oct 26, 2011 12:26:59 pm PDT #3314 of 30001
information libertarian

I have a refurbished Kitchenaid, bought from Amazon I think, and it has been fine with weekly use over the past 5 or so years. It's a little noisy, especially with bread dough, but I am not sure if they are all like that or not.


Consuela - Oct 26, 2011 12:30:28 pm PDT #3315 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Which all leads me to a new question: Did they put her photo on the cover to show that she's conventionally attractive to further qualify that "there's nothing wrong with her"?

I suspect that's one of the reasons, yeah.

I tried to read some of the comments: EW.

Lots of sirens in downtown today. And I will definitely be leaving the office early.


meara - Oct 26, 2011 12:36:13 pm PDT #3316 of 30001

I have just double-checked my time off, and in addition to the days I was planning to take at Christmas, I have to take seven days off before the end of the year. I don't know when I have time to do that AND do my job. ARgh.


Strega - Oct 26, 2011 12:39:08 pm PDT #3317 of 30001

We're talking about writing with a million qualifiers, excuses, rationalizations.

I dunno, they didn't read as qualifiers or rationalizations to me. They read like she expects readers to nod and think, "I can relate!"

And I dunno, maybe they do. I don't know who the Atlantic's typical subscriber is. Maybe it's Elizabeth Gilbert.


Amy - Oct 26, 2011 12:47:47 pm PDT #3318 of 30001
Because books.

I dunno, they didn't read as qualifiers or rationalizations to me.

I have to qualify this by saying I only read the first page, but to me it simply came off as setup. The thing about many previous relationships seemed like a way to explain why she assumed she would have one again, after she broke up with whoever, for instance. And that seemed logical to me; I probably would have assumed the same in her place.

It's all a matter of perspective to me, the grass is always greener thing. I can envy her chances to travel widely and have this fantastic career, but maybe she would look at me and say, "Pfft. You have a husband and three kids."