I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


askye - Apr 07, 2012 1:26:37 pm PDT #29936 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

My dad is racist and my grandmother is and my grandfather was. And much of his side of the family is. I grew up around it and the few times I tried to challenge it I was either out right dismissed and patronized "you'll understand when you're older" or got long lectures where I got emotional and just couldn't say the right things.

It was one of the double edged swords about going to the beach, (my dad's extended family all has houses together), the branch of the family he was closest too and we spent the most time with are really racist. Well the older generation.

Huge Rush Limbaugh fans, Fox news only, 2 of my dad's cousins are Southern Baptist Preachers that boycotted Disney. I was given Gone with the Wind as a gift and when I didn't think it was just the best ever and think the South was wronged I got mini lectured.

Then as I got older it seemed to get worse it got to the point I just spent as little time with them as possible.

Dad I've called him on stuff, but he hasn't changed. Mom, on the other hand, has gotten more accepting and open minded.

I did ask about what would happen if I ever dated a black guy and Mom pretty much said "I don't think you'd want to bring him to the beach or to meet parts of your Dad's family."

Although my dad's parents really liked and respected (according to my grandmother and to Mom) Mom's dad. Who was half Comanche. And I don't remember ever hearing racist comments about Native Americans - just almost ever other group that wasn't white, Protestant, and straight.

Besides the racist stuff I grew up hearing a lot of Anti-Catholic comments. Southern Baptists (and Southern Baptists raised Calvinist) Do Not Like Catholics. My great aunt was scandalized when she learned her future granddaughter in law is Catholic and that the wedding was going to be in a Catholic Church. At first she refused to go.


Polgara - Apr 07, 2012 1:42:27 pm PDT #29937 of 30001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

I'm Zappo-ing for the first time and have a question. I need these by Wednesday--has anyone ever ordered the free shipping and had them actually take 4-5 business days?


Lee - Apr 07, 2012 1:44:28 pm PDT #29938 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think I would order the faster shipping, just to be on the safe side.


Polgara - Apr 07, 2012 1:46:12 pm PDT #29939 of 30001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

That's what I figured. Thanks!


flea - Apr 07, 2012 1:56:23 pm PDT #29940 of 30001
information libertarian

I have always had the free shipping from Zappos the very next day. It's almost terrifying; once I ordered shoes at 8pm and they were on my porch at noon the next day. I was like, "Are there magical shoe GNOMES doing the delivery?"


Jesse - Apr 07, 2012 2:02:20 pm PDT #29941 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, I think I've not had free overnight shipping one time, but if you can't risk it, don't risk it, you know?


Polgara - Apr 07, 2012 2:14:06 pm PDT #29942 of 30001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Yep, couldn't risk it, so I ordered the same boots through Amazon instead--prime shipping, and $5 cheaper. I just hope they fit, since I tend to be between sizes.


DavidS - Apr 07, 2012 2:39:22 pm PDT #29943 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I saw this article and thought of Hecubus: [link] At least he hasn't taken it to this extreme... yet.

Not my favorite association, Theo!

That actually happens periodically; every two or three years you'll see that pop up in the news cycle.


meara - Apr 07, 2012 2:47:01 pm PDT #29944 of 30001

I have had it take many many days, for Zappos (granted I ordered the Thursday before Thanksgiving, but I didn't get it until after Thanksgiving). I've also had it on my doorstep the next morning. If you need them I wouldn't risk it. If they might just be a better option than something you have already...


Jesse - Apr 07, 2012 3:55:13 pm PDT #29945 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So I bought a blouse today, and I can't decide if it's a color I should wear or not! It's not a color green I usually wear, but I can't tell if it looks terrible! And what if the answer is that it does, but I only learn that when I see my mother in the morning? Argh. I guess it's OK.