Hauser: You really think you can solve the problem? Come into Wolfram & Hart and make everything right? Turn night into glorious day? You pathetic little fairy. Angel: I'm not little.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Apr 06, 2012 5:56:30 pm PDT #29879 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I can't even read all of that article.

I grew up in New Orleans, with a majority black population, and my parents never said ANYTHING so stupid and racist to me.


sumi - Apr 06, 2012 5:59:15 pm PDT #29880 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I couldn't read all of that article either.


msbelle - Apr 06, 2012 6:00:40 pm PDT #29881 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I cry about the reality that I will have to talk to mac about how some people are going to huge him harshly because of his skin color. That assumptions will be made that have nothing to do with who is and how he acts, or what he does.


Aims - Apr 06, 2012 6:20:07 pm PDT #29882 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I guess I've had kind of a talk with Emeline, but not like *that*. Mostly when subjects like Rosa Parks come up or she sees something on tv when [insert minority] is being treated badly and she asks why and I explain that some people don't like other people because of their skin color/country/who they love/has a vagina and treat that person badly. And then she expresses her utter disgust and asks why people are like that? Sadly, I have no good answer for that question other than Douchebage and Racists Are.

I will say, though, that I find talking with her about race is a lot harder for me than I thought it would and I tend to be more ... rigid (I reprimanded her for calling the kid at Burger King a "black boy") with what descriptors she chooses. Probably overly so, but better to err on the side of white liberal guilt?

Gay was WAY easier to explain and deal with.


DavidS - Apr 06, 2012 6:25:53 pm PDT #29883 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've already talked with Emmett about how women perceive men and he has to be conscious that he's big enough now that if he's walking behind a woman at night he's a perceived threat. Stuff like that.


SuziQ - Apr 06, 2012 6:47:19 pm PDT #29884 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I was feeling like crap earlier. K-Bug got me some wonton soup and it was wonderful. Im looking forward to finishing it off for breakfast.


sarameg - Apr 06, 2012 8:24:14 pm PDT #29885 of 30001

Barely made the last leg of the trip. Chicago has it in for me. I try at all costs to avoid it, but sometimes I just can't and it never fails to remind me why. Bed now.


Liese S. - Apr 06, 2012 11:01:55 pm PDT #29886 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Good first evening with the friends. Man, I miss these guys. I miss just hanging out, and talking music, and in-jokes, and shared history.

Tomorrow will be a busy one, but should also be good. I hope the show makes some money for them. It sucks that their Phoenix gig fell through but I'm happy for the extra time.


Laura - Apr 07, 2012 3:11:26 am PDT #29887 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

My parents never, never ever ever, said any similar to me. Oh hell no.

I do not follow those guidelines (shocking, I know) and not once have I had my life threatened when I was a minority in a setting or an event.

I grew up in New Orleans, with a majority black population, and my parents never said ANYTHING so stupid and racist to me.

Thank you! I was a bit concerned that maybe my normal, not paranoid, not bigoted parenting experience wasn't really the norm. My heart breaks for children raised this way, and I have encountered some, but a really tiny minority.

Granted, I live in a large city with a diverse population and my kids go to public school. The parents that I have met that have these notions tend to either move to school districts that are less mixed, home school, or send the kids to private schools.

So back to the more basic - WTF is wrong with people?

Yay Liese for the exhausting fun times!


Liese S. - Apr 07, 2012 3:52:26 am PDT #29888 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yay! Except I woke up in three hours with shoulder pain. Shoulder pain before a day of moving a bunch of equipment is bad. Must have done something cleaning. Not good.