Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

'Sleeper'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Apr 07, 2012 3:11:26 am PDT #29887 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

My parents never, never ever ever, said any similar to me. Oh hell no.

I do not follow those guidelines (shocking, I know) and not once have I had my life threatened when I was a minority in a setting or an event.

I grew up in New Orleans, with a majority black population, and my parents never said ANYTHING so stupid and racist to me.

Thank you! I was a bit concerned that maybe my normal, not paranoid, not bigoted parenting experience wasn't really the norm. My heart breaks for children raised this way, and I have encountered some, but a really tiny minority.

Granted, I live in a large city with a diverse population and my kids go to public school. The parents that I have met that have these notions tend to either move to school districts that are less mixed, home school, or send the kids to private schools.

So back to the more basic - WTF is wrong with people?

Yay Liese for the exhausting fun times!


Liese S. - Apr 07, 2012 3:52:26 am PDT #29888 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yay! Except I woke up in three hours with shoulder pain. Shoulder pain before a day of moving a bunch of equipment is bad. Must have done something cleaning. Not good.


Theodosia - Apr 07, 2012 3:55:35 am PDT #29889 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I shoudl be all ambitious about the long list of things that I should accomplish this weekend, but mostly I feel like playing stupid Facebook games. SIGH


Jesse - Apr 07, 2012 4:00:01 am PDT #29890 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am almost ready to leave for choir rehearsal! More or less up and at em.


brenda m - Apr 07, 2012 4:00:12 am PDT #29891 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

My parents never, never ever ever, said any similar to me. Oh hell no.

Oh hells no. And I did go to inner city public schools.


Sheryl - Apr 07, 2012 4:07:12 am PDT #29892 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Went to my MIL's for the first seder last night. Tonight we meet my FIL and SMIL for dinner.(Some sort of steakhouse, probably)


Sophia Brooks - Apr 07, 2012 4:23:14 am PDT #29893 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I kept thinking the "talk" article was a parody, because my ads were for re-electing Obama.

No one ever had that talk with me, and I went to a school with 4 black people (2 were special needs kids adopted by a family who adopted many more special needs kids), 1 jewish person, and 10 asians. It was a a country school, not a suburban one. I do sometimes wish I could talk to these kids now about their point of view, because for me growing up, I was completely ignorant of rascism because the population was so small you could not see it, and the only people who seemed to have trouble were the special needs kids (and those kids, white and black had it very, very bad. Even the nice kids were horrible to them)

My mother was an aging pre-hippy, so she was really into "everyone is a person, we don't see color", which has its own problems, but I think it ended up being a good foundation to appreciate issues as an adult, because being open minded and listening to people was also valued. At least it makes one open enough to actually talk to people!


Laura - Apr 07, 2012 4:28:26 am PDT #29894 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

They discussed that article this morning on MSNBC (Up with Chris Hayes) and the short summary was that the man who wrote the article is well known for his racist insanity, so not even close to main stream crazy.


Theodosia - Apr 07, 2012 4:30:51 am PDT #29895 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I too grew up in a practically mono-cultural suburb, not counting the significant subset of Catholic kids, many of whom went to the local parish grammar school. There was a slight smattering of Jewish kids, and like one Japanese-American and one Chinese-American.

The first time I met black kids my age was at a YMCA day camp in the summers. Otherwise it would have been not until college!


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 07, 2012 4:33:53 am PDT #29896 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My gradeschools were so lily white growing up that anyone of another race was more an individual oddity than representative of a whole group. I do remember being very confused and angry when one friend's father made him stop playing with the neighborhood kids in the afternoons because one of us was black.