I just can't believe this still happens!
Well, you know, women are all irrational and bleed every month. It's offputting and strange. Plus they insist on being allowed to vote and wear trousers. Who would want to work with THAT?
Where's the praising and extolling of my virtues? Where's the love?
Host ,'Not Fade Away'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Steph L. - Mar 21, 2012 6:13:29 am PDT #27497 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Connie Neil - Mar 21, 2012 6:27:02 am PDT #27498 of 30001
brillig
I like men. Many of them are wondrous, honorable, fun creatures. Many of them are disgusting assholes who need slapped. How human of them.
Laura - Mar 21, 2012 6:27:47 am PDT #27499 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
I am so grateful for the sane men in my life, including here. When I read things like that I am taken back because I protect and surround myself with the rational.
DavidS - Mar 21, 2012 6:27:57 am PDT #27500 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Teaching is a famous historical example of a field being devalued as women entered the field.
I wonder when it happened with Human Resources, because that's definitely dominated by women now.
Sophia Brooks - Mar 21, 2012 6:30:19 am PDT #27501 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I think being a secretary was one of the first examples-- even before teaching.
The weird reversal thing with nursing and secretarial work (can't speak for teaching) is the few men who do it seem get promoted to fairly high positions very quickly if they are not incompetent. All unconsciously, and by women.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 21, 2012 6:31:31 am PDT #27502 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
And I sure did wish that men draining out didn't mean anything other than the assholes leave. Because the entire workforce is better off not having to work with the kind of people that would leave because of an evening out of the genders.
It sounds like it's more of a case of the assholes not deciding to drop in in the first place. But if the medical and legal professions are ones in the midst of this process, where exactly is the money and status supposed to go? I'm skeptical of it settling in traditionally male bailiwicks like construction or the police and firefighting forces.
meara - Mar 21, 2012 6:31:56 am PDT #27503 of 30001
Yeah, I don't think most of the male flight is deliberate. It's probably subconscious for the most part. And then there's less pay, and the guys are even less likely to go there for pay reasons, not just girl-cootie reasons. Etc, etc.
Jesse - Mar 21, 2012 6:36:40 am PDT #27504 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
It sounds like it's more of a case of the assholes not deciding to drop in in the first place. But if the medical and legal professions are ones in the midst of this process, where exactly is the money and status supposed to go? I'm skeptical of it settling in traditionally male bailiwicks like construction or the police and firefighting forces.
Yes and yes. And not even assholes, but people who live in our culture, where women's work IS undervalued (in all the ways) and it IS much worse for a man to "seem like a woman" than for a woman to "seem like a man" and... I just can't.
Nora Deirdre - Mar 21, 2012 6:42:48 am PDT #27505 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
But if the medical and legal professions are ones in the midst of this process, where exactly is the money and status supposed to go?
High finance and software engineering. Probably engineering in general.
Jesse - Mar 21, 2012 6:47:39 am PDT #27506 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Luckily, engineering schools are still full of boys! Phew.