They're doing it backwards; walking up the down slide.

River ,'Ariel'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - Mar 18, 2012 3:22:36 pm PDT #27148 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm just happy I have hair.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2012 3:23:32 pm PDT #27149 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's the only one that's something that's been something distinctly negative for me

Makes you fairly lucky, I'd think. Not all white people can say that.


Hil R. - Mar 18, 2012 3:30:52 pm PDT #27150 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think I'm a little too post-Mockingjay flaily to be able to talk about something as emotionally charged as hair right now, so I'm backing out of this, at least for a little while.


sarameg - Mar 18, 2012 3:31:16 pm PDT #27151 of 30001

There's a wonderful piece on Snap Judgement on this topic: [link] (link to audio, but you have to hit play.) The politics and emotions that revolve around hair for black women are the subject of many a Y locker room conversations, not to mention some of the women at work. It really is just so much more complicated.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2012 3:34:16 pm PDT #27152 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'll have to bookmark that to listen to later, sarameg. Thanks.


sarameg - Mar 18, 2012 3:36:24 pm PDT #27153 of 30001

It's a personal story, but it covers so much of what I hear.

eta: and damn, it makes me cry every time I hear it.


Jesse - Mar 18, 2012 3:45:11 pm PDT #27154 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I accidentally went to a black salon once, due to the very "open a phone book" thing -- it was closest to my work. Of course the cut was great, because they were used to cutting straight(ened) hair into a stacked bob, and she ALSO used many sizes of curling irons to bump out the short parts in the back.


Hil R. - Mar 18, 2012 3:54:00 pm PDT #27155 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

When I watched "Good Hair" with my mom, she was surprised to realize that all the black women that she'd been saying "If she can get her hair to be long and straight like that, why can't I get mine to do that?" about were actually wearing weaves.


Vortex - Mar 18, 2012 3:54:42 pm PDT #27156 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I've never been to a white woman hairdresser, but I've been to many a white gay man.


flea - Mar 18, 2012 3:56:36 pm PDT #27157 of 30001
information libertarian

One of the best Ta-Nehisi Coates running jokes ever started when he asked for barbershop recommendations and someone suggested he try a Haircuttery. It is a classic, and continues to be referenced to this day. [link]