Home schooling? You know, it's not just for scary religious people anymore.

Buffy ,'Beneath You'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Mar 16, 2012 8:16:15 pm PDT #26905 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I used to work at the Shannon Laboratory at AT&T.

Cool! But I expected you and Tommy and ita to know.


§ ita § - Mar 16, 2012 8:25:47 pm PDT #26906 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He pings no specific things for me. Applied math. Cryptography. That's where he seems familiar. Theories. With numbers. And information. But those have not been something I've looked at for years.


DavidS - Mar 16, 2012 8:29:02 pm PDT #26907 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

He pings no specific things for me. Applied math. Cryptography. That's where he seems familiar.

But you knew his name and those elements of his inquiries.


DavidS - Mar 16, 2012 8:34:30 pm PDT #26908 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oh, yeah, and Jon B. should know him, and probably DXM, Gud and maybe Ginger. And Lori.

But that's off the top of my head.

Anyway, he also invented a flame throwing trumpet and a motorized pogo-stick.

eta: Dag. He's got six statues.


Burrell - Mar 16, 2012 8:35:18 pm PDT #26909 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I didn't recognize the name.


DavidS - Mar 16, 2012 8:36:34 pm PDT #26910 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I didn't recognize the name.

Me neither! That's what's boggling me. Because when you read his wikipedia page you realize, "I should know who this is."

Robert Gallager has called Shannon the greatest scientist of the 20th century. According to Neil Sloane, an AT&T Fellow who co-edited Shannon's large collection of papers in 1993, the perspective introduced by Shannon's communication theory (now called information theory) is the foundation of the digital revolution, and every device containing a microprocessor or microcontroller is a conceptual descendant of Shannon's 1948 publication:[21] "He's one of the great men of the century. Without him, none of the things we know today would exist. The whole digital revolution started with him."


billytea - Mar 16, 2012 8:37:57 pm PDT #26911 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

eta: Dag. He's got six statues.

How many of them BREATHE FIRE?


Atropa - Mar 16, 2012 8:41:58 pm PDT #26912 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(Although I can pop crappy locks with a bobby pin or credit card, I would LOVE to learn how to pick locks. Not for CRIME; just....to know.)

Ooh, me too. Both with the popping crappy locks with bobby pins and the wanting to learn how to pick locks.


DavidS - Mar 16, 2012 8:42:46 pm PDT #26913 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, for financial analysts and gambling enthusiasts:

Shannon and his wife Betty also used to go on weekends to Las Vegas with M.I.T. mathematician Ed Thorp,[25] and made very successful forays in blackjack using game theory type methods co-developed with fellow Bell Labs associate, physicist John L. Kelly Jr. based on principles of information theory.[26] They made a fortune, as detailed in the book Fortune's Formula by William Poundstone and corroborated by the writings of Elwyn Berlekamp,[27] Kelly's research assistant in 1960 and 1962.[3] Shannon and Thorp also applied the same theory, later known as the Kelly criterion, to the stock market with even better results.[28] Over the decades, Kelly's scientific formula has become a part of mainstream investment theory[29] and the most prominent users, well-known and successful billionaire investors Warren Buffett,[30][31] Bill Gross[32] and Jim Simons use Kelly methods. Warren Buffett met Thorp the first time in 1968. It's said that Buffett uses a form of the Kelly criterion in deciding how much money to put into various holdings. Also Elwyn Berlekamp had applied the same logical algorithm for Axcom Trading Advisors, an alternative investment management company, that he had founded. Berlekamp's company was acquired by Jim Simons and his Renaissance Technologies Corp hedge fund in 1992, whereafter its investment instruments were either subsumed into (or essentially renamed as) Renaissance's flagship Medallion Fund. But as Kelly's original paper demonstrates, the criterion is only valid when the investment or "game" is played many times over, with the same probability of winning or losing each time, and the same payout ratio.[33]

The theory was also exploited by the famous MIT Blackjack Team, which was a group of students and ex-students from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Harvard Business School, Harvard University, and other leading colleges who used card-counting techniques and other sophisticated strategies to beat casinos at blackjack worldwide. The team and its successors operated successfully from 1979 through the beginning of the 21st century. Many other blackjack teams have been formed around the world with the goal of beating the casinos.

Claude Shannon's card count techniques were explained in Bringing Down the House, the best-selling book published in 2003 about the MIT Blackjack Team by Ben Mezrich. In 2008, the book was adapted into a drama film titled 21.


DavidS - Mar 16, 2012 8:45:18 pm PDT #26914 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How many of them BREATHE FIRE?

Considering he made a flame-throwing trumpet for fun, I would hope all of them.