No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?
Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
sumi - Mar 14, 2012 5:31:15 pm PDT #26639 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Aims - Mar 14, 2012 5:37:13 pm PDT #26640 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Cross posted w/Bitches cause I am in a (homework related) panic:
I am working on a homework assignment and I don't know the proper way to describe the transgender issue with Girl Scouts. Is it correct to say it is a "transgendered boy" that joined the Girl Scout troop because even though she has the bits of a boy, she lives as a girl? I want to make sure I say it right.
sarameg - Mar 14, 2012 5:39:26 pm PDT #26641 of 30001
My brother posted a picture of their (male) cat schooling the (female) dog and noting the boys once again beat the girls in their household.
Shortly thereafter, my SIL posted that my brother had just been locked out of the house and texted her to let him in. He was locked out. By the cat. HER cat. The one he'd been touting as being the most badass male in the house.
It's pretty funny to me, at least.
meara - Mar 14, 2012 5:46:18 pm PDT #26642 of 30001
Depends on how clear you want to make it. You could say an "MTF child" or something to be maybe a little more clear. Not sure what the most appropriate would be. But if you do what you're saying, I think the phrase you want is "transgender woman ((girl?)"
DavidS - Mar 14, 2012 5:48:13 pm PDT #26643 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
But if you do what you're saying, I think the phrase you want is "transgender woman ((girl?)"
This is how I've heard it as distinct from "genetic girl" or GG.
DebetEsse - Mar 14, 2012 5:54:19 pm PDT #26644 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Speaking as one, "genetic girl" feels like a weird label (not least because genotype and phenotype don't always line up, even biologically). Is "cis" too niche?
meara - Mar 14, 2012 5:55:18 pm PDT #26645 of 30001
Cis is totally niche, but "biogirl" or "genetic girl" is bad. And in the case of genetic girl, quite possibly inaccurate (as there are many XXY or XXXY people out there)
DebetEsse - Mar 14, 2012 6:02:06 pm PDT #26646 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Huh. It's not a complicated concept, right? I suppose using it implies a certain degree of awareness of cis-ness as something other than "normal" which is more awareness than most people have.
Steph L. - Mar 14, 2012 6:02:54 pm PDT #26647 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I think the phrase you want is "transgender woman ((girl?)
It's this, because you refer to the gender the person currently identifies as. In this case, a girl.
Also, I often read that the -ed on "transgendered" is not correct; it's just "transgender," no -ed.
And finally, it would be "trans girl," two words, if you wanted to use that shortened form. Not "transgirl," one word. (Although I see "transman" a lot, so I think it's one of those terms that's evolving.)
but "biogirl" or "genetic girl" is bad.
The term I hear a lot recently is male-assigned-at-birth/female-assigned-at-birth (MAAB/FAAB).
DebetEsse - Mar 14, 2012 6:09:13 pm PDT #26648 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
female-assigned-at-birth
Hmmm...I don't think I like that, either. "assigned" is not the word I'd use, as it makes gender for me something put on me by other people (with the subtext that I've passively accepted it), which seems antithetical to the whole point of the thing.
"recognized" or "acknowledged", I could get behind.