You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sheryl - Mar 14, 2012 12:46:32 pm PDT #26601 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

I though dystopias were the new vampire? Shows how much I pay attention to publishing trends.(Aside from what I can glean from the contents of book dealers' tables at the cons I attend...)


meara - Mar 14, 2012 1:17:48 pm PDT #26602 of 30001

Speaking of scenes, do any Buffistas who participate therein bump into much raceplay? Is it done as publicly as other sorts of play? Gawker noted it as "advanced"

I do not see it much in my neck of the woods, but I have heard of and about it (in general, NSM "we do this"). I know of one guy who has told me he did. I think it's definitely more likely to happen in private. I also know Mollena (many of my kinkster friends are good friends of hers)


le nubian - Mar 14, 2012 1:46:02 pm PDT #26603 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I love that someone can half (?) jokingly refer to orgasm with respect to "nonconsensual editing."

Only in a few corners of the internet.


Liese S. - Mar 14, 2012 1:57:51 pm PDT #26604 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Speaking of scenes, do any Buffistas who participate therein bump into much raceplay?

I read this as participate in theremins. And I was really confused as to why there was a hitherto unsuspected underlying raceplay theremin community.


Steph L. - Mar 14, 2012 2:09:47 pm PDT #26605 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I feel I've read better fanfic

I've read better BDSM fiction, but I've also read worse (Anne Rice, I am looking at you). And, TBH, the ones I particularly love are not because of how OMG Kinky they are; it's because they're geeky in a particularly word-nerdy way, big time (though there is some *seriously* hardcore kink in there, really). I'm not too fussed that it started life as fanfic, but the Twilight-y-ness of it is pretty fucking obvious.

I also know Mollena (many of my kinkster friends are good friends of hers)

I am seriously jealous. I really love reading her blog, because she's so honest about her shit.

And I was really confused as to why there was a hitherto unsuspected underlying raceplay theremin community.

I'm tempted to make that a new fetish on Fetlife.


P.M. Marc - Mar 14, 2012 2:29:36 pm PDT #26606 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

From what I can see about 50 Shades Of Grey, what seems to be most irritating about it is that is that the fanfic got pulled off the web when it got published. But, no doubt, the publisher insisted. As they insist is wasn't fanfic with the serial numbers sexily filed off (of course, some stern but loving editing could make it even more different, but hey). I thought the Jezebel article (this) was more weird than the book seemed to be. It just seemed--well, I feel I've read better fanfic, and some of it was published, but self-published, and I feel bad for that author.

I read an article/essay recently on how this is actually a common thing in Twilight fandom: writers of popular stories frequently file off serial numbers and sell them to epresses/self publish them. This has caused a backlash of people saving and putting stories in a public DB. It's all very foreign to me, fannishly, but Twilight is one of the "feral" fandoms, where huge (up to 70%) numbers of people have it as their first fandom, with no real connection to fandom-as-an-entity.

Suela, was it you or Rivka who linked to that? Or the AO3 comm?


askye - Mar 14, 2012 2:35:25 pm PDT #26607 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Did Cassandra Clare basically do the same thing? I mean write an au fic and then "file off the numbers" and publish it.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 14, 2012 2:38:56 pm PDT #26608 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Is Cassandra Claire also the person who plagiarized a Draco/Harry fic from a BtVS fic, and other sources, or am I getting mixed up?


askye - Mar 14, 2012 2:40:11 pm PDT #26609 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I'm pretty sure that's her, only she said she wasn't plagiarizing, I think she either claimed she forgot where she heard the quotes or it was a "game"


DavidS - Mar 14, 2012 2:54:18 pm PDT #26610 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Fanwank on Cassandra Claire.