Wesley: We're going to bring Angelus in alive. Connor: No we're not. Gunn: I thought you said capturing him wasn't an option. Wesley: Changed my mind. Connor: Change it back.

'Why We Fight'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Mar 14, 2012 2:09:47 pm PDT #26605 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I feel I've read better fanfic

I've read better BDSM fiction, but I've also read worse (Anne Rice, I am looking at you). And, TBH, the ones I particularly love are not because of how OMG Kinky they are; it's because they're geeky in a particularly word-nerdy way, big time (though there is some *seriously* hardcore kink in there, really). I'm not too fussed that it started life as fanfic, but the Twilight-y-ness of it is pretty fucking obvious.

I also know Mollena (many of my kinkster friends are good friends of hers)

I am seriously jealous. I really love reading her blog, because she's so honest about her shit.

And I was really confused as to why there was a hitherto unsuspected underlying raceplay theremin community.

I'm tempted to make that a new fetish on Fetlife.


P.M. Marc - Mar 14, 2012 2:29:36 pm PDT #26606 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

From what I can see about 50 Shades Of Grey, what seems to be most irritating about it is that is that the fanfic got pulled off the web when it got published. But, no doubt, the publisher insisted. As they insist is wasn't fanfic with the serial numbers sexily filed off (of course, some stern but loving editing could make it even more different, but hey). I thought the Jezebel article (this) was more weird than the book seemed to be. It just seemed--well, I feel I've read better fanfic, and some of it was published, but self-published, and I feel bad for that author.

I read an article/essay recently on how this is actually a common thing in Twilight fandom: writers of popular stories frequently file off serial numbers and sell them to epresses/self publish them. This has caused a backlash of people saving and putting stories in a public DB. It's all very foreign to me, fannishly, but Twilight is one of the "feral" fandoms, where huge (up to 70%) numbers of people have it as their first fandom, with no real connection to fandom-as-an-entity.

Suela, was it you or Rivka who linked to that? Or the AO3 comm?


askye - Mar 14, 2012 2:35:25 pm PDT #26607 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Did Cassandra Clare basically do the same thing? I mean write an au fic and then "file off the numbers" and publish it.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 14, 2012 2:38:56 pm PDT #26608 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Is Cassandra Claire also the person who plagiarized a Draco/Harry fic from a BtVS fic, and other sources, or am I getting mixed up?


askye - Mar 14, 2012 2:40:11 pm PDT #26609 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I'm pretty sure that's her, only she said she wasn't plagiarizing, I think she either claimed she forgot where she heard the quotes or it was a "game"


DavidS - Mar 14, 2012 2:54:18 pm PDT #26610 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Fanwank on Cassandra Claire.


Allyson - Mar 14, 2012 3:22:54 pm PDT #26611 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I just found someone's research paper on fan campaigns, heavily quoting Buffistas.org posts from Joss, Tim, Me, and misquoting Kristen as Kiba, over and over.

The student is now at Syracuse, writing a dissertation on Joss Whedon's fandoms.

The paper is from 2007, but I really can't stop this horrible itch I have to correct her citation.

Should I ignore it, or email her?


askye - Mar 14, 2012 3:26:28 pm PDT #26612 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I think you should email her.


meara - Mar 14, 2012 3:30:47 pm PDT #26613 of 30001

Link to it because we're very curious? And definitely email her--how freaking hard is it to properly identify a poster when you can copy and paste!!


Allyson - Mar 14, 2012 3:36:28 pm PDT #26614 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

[link]

It looks like undergrad work. Boy, was I a BIG JERK. Well, I still am, little bit.

But there's a whole quote of me yelling at fans to not send apples to Fox so we won't "look like asswipes."

This is my contribution to academia, ladies and gents!