You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Mar 03, 2012 5:21:34 pm PST #25126 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't decide if this belongs in Movies or Boxed Set, so Natter it is - anyone who loved Inception or The Matrix needs to run out RIGHT NOW and get World on a Wire and watch it and then come back. I'll wait.

It's a German sci-fi miniseries from 1973, and it is wonderful. I don't know how the Wachowski's managed to snag a copy back in the 90's (since it was only just now rediscovered and released on DVD/Blu-Ray), but obviously they did because there's a bit of mise en scene in the Matrix that cannot possibly be a coincidence.

Go. NOW.


Steph L. - Mar 03, 2012 5:30:50 pm PST #25127 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I must still register my disappointment with *you* for failing to take the Kates to Skyline

They may go tomorrow. Mr. Kate asked if they should go, and I said that it would round out their Cincinnati experience.

Other random tidbits from the visit: Dillo (flea's youngest) got a candy lightsaber (looks like a giant Jolly Rancher, but in a plastic holder dealie that looks like a lightsaber) THAT LIGHTS UP. It's sugar that LIGHTS UP. I love living in the future!

Also, we saw an ass hat in a store window. I should have taken a picture. (Not a butt hat; a hat knitted like a donkey head.) (I can think of several family members who are getting ass hats for their birthdays.)


DavidS - Mar 03, 2012 5:38:37 pm PST #25128 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't know how the Wachowski's managed to snag a copy back in the 90's

Are you not familiar with the grey market?

I remember when John Zorn was the only guy in America who had copies of Seijuin Suzuki's movies.


Jessica - Mar 03, 2012 5:42:36 pm PST #25129 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Are you not familiar with the grey market?

Well sure, but this wasn't just legally unavailable, it was considered lost. And I'm pretty sure it was never translated into English before the current release.


DavidS - Mar 03, 2012 5:48:33 pm PST #25130 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well sure, but this wasn't just legally unavailable, it was considered lost. And I'm pretty sure it was never translated into English before the current release.

I didn't mean that to sound so bitchy. Just, people who are YOU basically were the grey market back in the pre-internet days. Audio and Video engineers.

I love how they keep finding "lost" episodes of Dr. Who because some techy back in the sixties or seventies walked off with the tapes.


Tom Scola - Mar 03, 2012 5:50:46 pm PST #25131 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I don't know how the Wachowski's managed to snag a copy back in the 90's

Maybe they didn't need to, because this all really is just a simulation.


sarameg - Mar 03, 2012 5:53:49 pm PST #25132 of 30001

Jesus, why I am being afflicted with credit card fuckuppery? Card doesn't show, order a new one. BOTH arrive within days of each other. Then apparently I open 2 corporate cards, even though I only signed up for one. Only difference is one uses an acronym for the company name, the other is spelled out. Oh, and different card #s. AHRG.

I went upstairs a bit ago and Loki and Pumpkin were on the spare bed, inches apart. So I put Pumpk on Loki. There's been no noises from upstairs.


Jessica - Mar 03, 2012 6:00:34 pm PST #25133 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Just, people who are YOU basically were the grey market back in the pre-internet days. Audio and Video engineers.

Hey now, I work in Archive. My job is to find all the shit that people walked off with fifty years ago. The grey-market is my nemesis. (Specifically, the people who call up and say "I found this clip on YouTube and I want to use it in my documentary. Find it for me on HD! Also, I have no budget.")

It was common practice back in the day for broadcast organizations to repurpose old content by literally cutting the scenes they wanted out of the original film and putting it into the new one. Whenever something is marked "lost in 1967" in the news database at work, we know exactly who to blame because there was a very famous news special produced that year which was well known for just walking off with film cans and never putting them back.

I love how they keep finding "lost" episodes of Dr. Who because some techy back in the sixties or seventies walked off with the tapes

Wouldn't even have been tape at that time - those were lost kinescopes. Much harder to fit under your jacket.

Maybe they didn't need to, because this all really is just a simulation.

Ow, my brain!


DavidS - Mar 03, 2012 6:03:23 pm PST #25134 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Much harder to fit under your jacket.

That's why you don't hand out keys for late night access. Except...they did.

But if they didn't walk off with Kinescopes we wouldn't have them today because some asshole bean-counter decided to wipe all the early seasons for monetary reason!


Jessica - Mar 03, 2012 6:05:52 pm PST #25135 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

some asshole bean-counter decided to wipe all the early seasons for monetary reason!

Technically speaking, they just didn't renew the lease where those seasons were stored. And the building fell into disrepair and sank into the swamp.

(Okay, there probably wasn't an actual swamp. But it's a better story that way. The truth is just kind of pathetic.)

My main point is, why are you posting instead of watching World On A Wire? WHY HAVE YOU NOT HEEDED MY ADVICE AND WATCHED THE CRAZY GERMAN 70s MATRIX?