Well, to be fair, the bible isn't too awesome toward women.
No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.
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Nora Deirdre - Dec 30, 2011 11:35:22 am PST #4903 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
sumi - Dec 30, 2011 11:42:56 am PST #4904 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Why is Mary in the Old Testament?
I mean - I agree with Hil - how is Mary relevant to a discussion of Judaism?
le nubian - Dec 30, 2011 11:46:18 am PST #4905 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
how is Mary relevant to a discussion of Judaism?
fair question.
Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 11:46:32 am PST #4906 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
At least in all the Bible teaching I've heard, God ASKED, and she said yes!
I don't recall that part. Maybe it's there, I just remember the Annunciation (not called the Asking, after all), not Mary's response.
G-d raped Mary
Ew. I never saw it THAT way. It was a gift. An inconvenient, awkward gift that almost got her forcibly divorced, but still.
I was arguing that the entire thing was irrelevant to a discussion of Judaism.
It's a little disheartening that that had to be pointed out.
Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 11:49:58 am PST #4907 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
An inconvenient, awkward gift that almost got her forcibly divorced
They weren't married yet. (I only know because we looked it up a couple of weeks before, when Tim referred to Mary as an unwed mother, and I said no, they were married, Joseph just wasn't the baby daddy. Then I said, "Do we even HAVE a Bible?" [Both of us used to belong to (different) freak-ass churches, so we don't have any religious stuff around (except what his Dad gives us).] Lo and behold, we do have a Bible, so we looked it up, and Mary and Joseph were not yet wed when she became pregnant. I think they still weren't wed when she gave birth, but I'm not 100% on that.)
Laura - Dec 30, 2011 11:51:42 am PST #4908 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Religion weird.
Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 11:56:05 am PST #4909 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I'm mostly disturbed by the fact that we've lived together for 4 years and I didn't know if we had a Bible. I mean, I *know* the books in this house.
Cass - Dec 30, 2011 11:58:04 am PST #4910 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I don't know if I have a bible either, actually. I think I donated it before I moved up here. A lot of books didn't make the cut.
Hil R. - Dec 30, 2011 12:02:54 pm PST #4911 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
It's a little disheartening that that had to be pointed out.
Yeah. I mean, I'm used to people who think that Judaism is just Christianity minus Jesus, but I don't think I've ever had to argue that argument before.
Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 12:09:38 pm PST #4912 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Thanks to cleaning out my grandmother's/mother's house, I have like five Bibles now. I still have the KJV I used for five years as my textbook in high school bible class.
They weren't married yet.
I guess I knew that. If they had been married, Joseph wouldn't have been surprised or concerned about finding her pregnant, right? I remember the line (verse?) that when he found out, Joseph "was minded to put her away privily." I interpreted that as a private, quiet breaking of their bond, which I thought of as marriage but I guess it was engagement.
Still, her showing up pregnant and NOT married was even more awkward.