The money was too good. I got stupid.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Trudy Booth - Feb 02, 2013 1:47:13 pm PST #25852 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

From close up he was quite a character!

I wish he'd done better in the initial stages of the AIDS crisis. One article talked about how much better Bloomberg would have handled it 30 years later... As if anyone wouldn't have after what ACT/Up did for the world? As if Bloomberg would have been like this 30 years ago? I assume he was, in fact gay. Yes, it would have made huge strides had he been out, but do you know many out and proud octegenarians? My own personal take - based on nothing but gut and his support of gay rights even 30 years ago - is that his closet had more to do with self-acceptance than politics.

Thanks to legal secretarying in NYC I've worked with a couple of people who were Al Hirschfeld caricatures. It's been a treat.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2013 1:53:16 pm PST #25853 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yes, it would have made huge strides had he been out, but do you know many out and proud octegenarians?

I actually know three, but none of them are politicians.


Trudy Booth - Feb 02, 2013 1:58:50 pm PST #25854 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There are certainly a handful of them, they're remarkable and the world owes them a debt - but they're remarkable because most people couldn't do what they did.


Vortex - Feb 02, 2013 3:58:47 pm PST #25855 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Jim Nabors!


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2013 4:40:16 pm PST #25856 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The local animal shelter, where I submitted an application to adopt a dog, has contacted my references and asked them questions about how flexible my schedule is and how financially stable I am. These seem like questions that it would make more sense to ask me, rather than them, but I'll wait and see what happens.


Steph L. - Feb 02, 2013 6:12:33 pm PST #25857 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

[link] TEPPY. FOR YOU.

Oh yeah, I need that. Most people have actually been fine when I said, "No hug, please," but I pretty much quickly followed up with an explanation that there were too many people and I was crowd-claustrophobic (although, DAMN, I shouldn't even have to explain that; I should be able to not hug for whatever reason I want, but I've been socialized to apologize for not going along with the prevailing cultural behaviors).

But one person, even after I explained that there were too many people, took several steps closer to me so that I quickly backed myself against a wall to try to get away, and then started PETTING MY HAIR. Tim said he couldn't believe she still had a hand left after that. (When she did it, I lurched away from her hand violently and said, "You're WAY too close to me right now; I wasn't joking about the claustrophobia.") What the hell, people. Your boundaries are for shit.

But it's been more or less fine, because I was mentally steeled for 400 people crammed in a hotel. However, we went to classes all day, and went out to lunch with 6 people and out to dinner with 11 people. I have had NO downtime and no alone time since 9 this morning. So we got back to the hotel after dinner and I needed to shower so we could change and go back for the party.

In the shower, I realized that I was willing to make my appendix burst through the power of my mind if it meant I didn't have to go back to the party. After 11 hours of being with WAY too many people, I could not even fathom going back into a loud, hot, crowded hotel ballroom full of people with no boundaries whose boundaries are not the same as mine (it's not a case of right or wrong; mine are just different from the majority, and that's okay, but hard to constantly police).

So I am curled up in bed, happily missing the party, and planning to steal all the toiletries from Housekeeping (it's Crabtree & Evelyn's Citron Honey and Coriander [since coriander is just another word for cilantro, I am laughing my ASS off at the fact that I took a shower with soap that would be incredibly divisive to Buffistas]).

Tim went to the party, which I encouraged him to do. This isn't a relationship where he can't have fun without me. (Given the nature of what goes on at these parties, this IS a relationship where there are a lot of things he doesn't do at the parties with anyone but me [and really, we do most shenanigans in private because I am a very reserved person], but there's some stuff I'm totally fine with him doing with other people. [I never know how much detail alla y'all want to know, so I'm trying to be on the vague side here.])

I did give him a short list of people he could bring home for me as a party favor. Seriously, we have a friend who looks like David Bowie. *Everyone* has the hots for him. It's like a rule.


Liese S. - Feb 02, 2013 6:25:05 pm PST #25858 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I'm totally fine with details, but I don't need them, so share what you're comfortable with.

But good for you for doing so well, and then knowing your boundaries. And ha, cilantro soap wars! Wait, isn't part of the issue that cilantro tastes like soap to some people? So cilantro soap should be totally fine.


Liese S. - Feb 02, 2013 6:27:43 pm PST #25859 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

On cultural boundaries, I had to laugh at the Native Ministries collaborative meeting. The two organizers were from California, and the dude did ministry somewhere else (China?). I forget. But they clearly didn't know about the space issue thing, so we were standing in a circle chatting, and they kept stepping forward emphatically, and I and the Navajo dudes all kept stepping backward to keep them at the right distance. I wanted to take them aside and tell them what they were doing, but they never noticed. They were just so puppy happy and enthusiastic. And we were all, okay, white dudes, you are too close to me now, signal: retreat!


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2013 6:35:33 pm PST #25860 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

they kept stepping forward emphatically, and I and the Navajo dudes all kept stepping backward to keep them at the right distance.

I get into this situation all the time with international students. I step backwards, they step forwards, and we end the conversation on the other side of the room from where we began it.


Dana - Feb 02, 2013 6:37:25 pm PST #25861 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I hate people who touch me when I don't want to be touched. Like the time I was out at happy hour with my coworkers, and a guy in the bar came up to ask one of my coworkers if her mother was married(!). He was asking for a friend.

Anyway, she was on the opposite side of the table from me, and while he was talking to her, he put his hands on my shoulders. Ugh.