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Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Burrell - Jun 06, 2012 7:37:28 am PDT #14812 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I find the harassment training a form of harassment itself. I get irate at the absurd gulf between the training and the reality of the situation.

Professor Minnie Monopoly is the only female Assistant Professor in the Department of Economics. Professor Monopoly is concerned about the double entendres that are frequently made around the office. Professor Monopoly is concerned as much for others in the vicinity as she is for herself. She comes to you, the Department Chair, looking for advice, but has no interest in filing a formal complaint as she believes she will simply create enemies by doing so. She also stated that she does not feel she has been harassed.

Let me guess, the correct answer is: Even if she says she doesn't want to file a compliant, you must pursue this as an actual complaint, and there is no way to guarantee Minnie Monopoly's anonymity as she requested.

Translation: Hey ladies, shut your pie hole and just put up with the double entendres because if admin gets even a whiff that you're unhappy about it, we will make your life miserable under the guise of "investigating your harassment complaint."


le nubian - Jun 06, 2012 8:13:28 am PDT #14813 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Burrell,

what do you think the appropriate response is? I'm curious because I have had to deal with a related matter and I wrote up a 2-3 page recommended set of responses for my main unit to deal with poor climate for racial/ethnic minority group members.


meara - Jun 06, 2012 8:15:23 am PDT #14814 of 30001

Yeah, I kinda hate that stuff. Because on the one hand, there are times when I'm perfectly ok with a situation, but know that others might not be. And know that those people are more likely to have a hard time speaking up about it (whereas I hardly ever don't speak up about shit, but especially if it's on someone else's behalf it's easier). But there are also times when I'm ok with a certain amount of whatever, but then someone has to go over the line and then it's really hard to say "no but see, when you say THAT, it's offensive or hurtful or just fucking creepy". Cause lord knows, there are things i enjoy if my friends do them, but if random creep I don't know or don't like does it, hell to the no.

Which is to say, I think a general warning to keep the double-entendres an offensive remarks and teasing to a minimum is probably a good plan on any case.


Burrell - Jun 06, 2012 9:30:53 am PDT #14815 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

what do you think the appropriate response is? I'm curious because I have had to deal with a related matter and I wrote up a 2-3 page recommended set of responses for my main unit to deal with poor climate for racial/ethnic minority group members.

Well I should clarify that my actual issue is with the various sexual harassments claims I've seen, which include one friend who was hounded out of graduate school when she made a sexual harassment claim over a professor who has slept with her and several other students. But that kind of thing isn't covered in the webinar I need to attend. Instead of focusing on how to effectively address sexual harassment claims that come up, it focuses on how to monitor one's own behavior to ensure never having a claim made. But the self-monitoring is OTT, like one bit of advice it gives is to never comment at work on any age-related health issues including one's own, because "reasonable people might take offense."


Burrell - Jun 06, 2012 9:41:54 am PDT #14816 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Brief follow up: the training just pushes my buttons because it feels like a double bind. On the one hand, onus is all on me to make sure I'm not being offensive (and training examples go out of their way to show members of protected status are just as likely to be the harassers as the harassed), and on the other, I'm still going out on a limb if I make a claim of harassment because the school is going to protect itself and its assets, not me.


le nubian - Jun 06, 2012 10:04:25 am PDT #14817 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I have never had such a required program. I can't imagine doing so. I know the content of such programs, but I have never HAD to do it.

Yeah, I can see your concerns pretty clearly. I had to write up my recommendations because of some cases of racial harassment that I was privy to because a student complained to me about it. Because the faculty member in question has (in the past) retaliated against people (e.g. called up a former student's new employer to complain) and I know he holds grudges, I did not feel particularly empowered to confront him about his behavior nor did the student.

So, I decided to treat this politically and express my concerns up the food chain to people who are in powerful positions in various spots on campus so people will know WTF is going on if this happens again.

And it will.

Since I raised the issue, I volunteered to write up recommendations and ways forward to improve the "climate for inclusiveness." I am not sure how they will proceed. I'm leaving after all, but I sure did give them an outline of ways to improve things over the next 3-5 years.


Typo Boy - Jun 06, 2012 10:29:03 am PDT #14818 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Im about to bitch, bitch, bitch about something fairly minor.

Insurance shit. "Sorry, it appears we sent you the wrong 12 page form. Fill out and fax this revised 12 page form that has *one* word different from the previous version in a section that does not apply to you. No, you cannot just refax that one page. The font is different so we will know if you try it."

Also the agent is annoyed at my following up, so far there have been a number of problems all which were only caught because I asked where we were in the process. I have yet to get a notification of a problem with my application unasked. And, yes, there is a tight deadline.


omnis_audis - Jun 06, 2012 10:45:51 am PDT #14819 of 30001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Let me guess, the correct answer is: Even if she says she doesn't want to file a compliant, you must pursue this as an actual complaint, and there is no way to guarantee Minnie Monopoly's anonymity as she requested.
Pretty much. It was a fun 2+ hours, let me tell you.

Inspection went well. The current owner is all moved out. It's in rather good shape. Just needs a good cleaning. The inpspector pointed out a small handful of minor things. Mostly were related to code was x in 198x when it was built, it is now Y, so for safety reasons, I would suggest you do this. Pipes are in good condition. Comes with the washer/dryer! And fridge! And stove! And dishwasher. No exclamation point for him, as he is leaking, and old, so only 1 appliance to buy! Tub needs a scrubbing. Porch is 8x15', or something to that degree. Long! And has a water spout on it, so if I try and get a green thumb, I can water them. Cabinets are in real good condition. Not pretty color, but good condition.

I took a couple QUICK photosynths. Everyone had to leave, so I didn't have much time, so not well stitched together, and a lil blurry, since low light and all. But you can get a sense of the view out the bedroom window! I have a couple others of outside and bathroom that I need to get on flickr. Here are the links to the photosynths:

From the center of dining room, view of kitchen/LR/entry/and dining room:
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From the centerish of living room, looking at dining room, see into bathroom/hallway, and entry:
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Bedroom and view:
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Scrappy - Jun 06, 2012 11:01:59 am PDT #14820 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Nice, Omnis! LOVE the view! Are you going to keep the carpeting? Because now would be the time to replace it, if you have any doubts.


omnis_audis - Jun 06, 2012 11:03:53 am PDT #14821 of 30001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Flickr to the rescue!

The view (from parking space just outside the unit:
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The view of my porch. Mine is the lower of the two:
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Hallway. Door to right is to living room. Door to left is bathroom. "closet" on left is HVAC. And linen cabinets to the right. I'm standing in the bedroom:
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Washer/Dryer closet. To the right is the hot water heater. It's on demand, no tank! Love that!
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Bathroom shots:
From sink looking at door to living room/hallway. hate toilet behind door. Blah.
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Shot of the tub. Needs cleaning.
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Just inside door, looking at counter/sink:
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That's all I got. Eep!

I welcome any ideas for paint colors. Although, it doesn't seem white right now. Bedroom is a light tan/mauveish color (I don't know color names).