Per page, laying out a newsletter isn't particularly different from laying out a magazine.

bonny, I'm telling all my dog owner friends because apparently this is not the first time this dog has attacked another, and I don't want anyone else to get hurt. I'd really like the owner to pay for my vet bills, but am absolutely not counting on it. Otherwise, pretty much over it. Sucks that some people are irresponsible dog owners.

/natter

So newsletter prices will give ma a fair idea? Because book layout prices are cheaper, but if the amount of work is comparable to a newsletter rather than a typical book, then it seems like that is the range I should expect to be charged in. I mean labor is what a contractor sells.

Aren't most newsletters black & white? Does color make a difference?

Does color make a difference?

These days, not much. The more pages something has, the less per page it should be, because the thing that takes the most time is coming up with the basic concept.

Do you know how it's going to be printed and do you also want to offer an e-book?

Aren't most newsletters black & white?

Probably not, since color printing is pretty ubiquitous.

Does color make a difference?

In printing costs, yes.

heh ... I once spent a good deal of time explaining to someone that two-color printing did not mean two colors AND black, that if they wanted black it counted as a color.

In printing costs, yes

Don't I know it. It took me a lot of research to find where to get color perfect bound books at a decent price. Actually two places. One that does on demand digital printing for runs from 25 - 500, and another where you can offset color reasonably in quantities of a 1,000 on up. (They do lower quantities too, but as you would expect, offset is more expensive than digital for short runs.) I don't expect to ever print this is anything but digital, but one cause of business failure is lack of contingency planning for how to handle unexpectedly large demand.

But it is news to me that there is no difference in layout costs between B&W and full color. Though now that I think about it, it makes sense. Same challenges. B&W still needs sizing, cropping, editing for stuff like contrast. Placement and drawing the eye where it is wanted is just as important as with color.

But it is news to me that there is no difference in layout costs between B&W and full color.

But layout is just layout. All layout really is, when you come down to it, is moving stuff around on a page. It doesn't matter if that stuff is 4C or B/W.

Yeah, now that it is pointed out it makes sense. But to someone not in the field, it was not intuitive until pointed out. It is not complicated, but also something that someone who is not an expert in the field can easily overlook. That is one of things about being an professional in the field. It is not just that you know obscure stuff, though you do. It is also that you know the field well enough not to overlook the obvious. Someone who is just trying to grasp a bunch of new stuff all at once can easily miss all sorts of obvious things. Which is another reason to hire a professional like you.

Years ago, it made more difference, because if you used the process colors to make things like headings, lines and boxes different colors, you had to supply separations and making four-color plates was a skilled job done by an actual person who spent most of his working life in the dark. Now a lot of that is done automagically by software.

Signed,

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