Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!

'Shindig'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - May 21, 2011 4:05:24 pm PDT #9208 of 30001

Standard joke among liberal quakers and UU: basically the same people, but Quakers like to sit around in silence and UU never shut up.

I do appreciate having grown up in a faith community. Thankfully, that particular flavor wasn't particularly upset when I stood up in meeting (12? 13? I dunno) to share that I didn't believe in god, buddha (we had some buddhists,) Christ or anything, really. And had no issue with me still staying in the community. I wasn't the only one.

(This wouldn't work at a lot of Quaker meetings, but out west, they lean to so open you can fall out.)

I didn't actually quit going to meeting until I went to (a quaker) college. Part of that was, hello? College? I had my community. Part was even liberal granola quaker colleges in North Carolina were a little more god-Christ heavy than I felt at home in. So it wasn't my community anymore.


quester - May 21, 2011 4:09:53 pm PDT #9209 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

If Adman and Eve were the only humans and then they had children - who did their children marry?

Just cause the typo is funny!


sarameg - May 21, 2011 4:13:56 pm PDT #9210 of 30001

Also: my floors are clean, I swam a bloody slow 2 miles (1m/lap?! What's up? Actually, I think it is the pool is too warm, I swim faster when it is cool.) and my bistro set is drying from its final lindseed oil slathering before going out on the desk for the season.

I think I'll go buy a pretty pot (since the last broke in a storm) and flowery thing to put on the table tomorrow.


DebetEsse - May 21, 2011 4:23:13 pm PDT #9211 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Standard joke among liberal quakers and UU: basically the same people, but Quakers like to sit around in silence and UU never shut up.

I think I may have to visit some Quakers sometime. Assuming they're okay with knitting during said silence.


sarameg - May 21, 2011 4:31:42 pm PDT #9212 of 30001

Just DON'T go to a "programmed" meeting. Those are preacher types.

My meeting in Las Cruces put up with my dad's snoring. (He, even back then, was pretty adamantly anti-religion. But he agreed with their social justice movement, and since he wasn't being preached at... he refused to sit on any committees, though.)

It's all about finding the right meeting.


Connie Neil - May 21, 2011 4:33:11 pm PDT #9213 of 30001
brillig

I see God/ess as the ultimate shoulder to lean/cry on. She can't change what's happening, but the hugs are terrific. It's helped me feel not quite so alone in various dark nights of the soul.


DebetEsse - May 21, 2011 4:36:36 pm PDT #9214 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Good to know. Thanks. I'm pretty happy with my UUs, and I'm not even sure there are any Quakers in Fort Wayne. But, should I move (or visit somewhere), I'll keep that in mind, because, yeah, being preached at would be a turn-off.


Cashmere - May 21, 2011 4:41:12 pm PDT #9215 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I thought there were a few books and some texts of the OT in Aramaic. Not a lot, to be sure but a few passages, originally.


Trudy Booth - May 21, 2011 4:44:53 pm PDT #9216 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think a good church is good for children, it gives them a sense of a wider world beyond their family. They develop personal relationships with adults besides their parents who have other opinions and politics and moods. It gives them a forum in which to figure out The Big Things with people besides their parents. And its an opportunity to interact with kids of different ages than their own -- in school or sports we were all the same age and sometimes gender but in youth group or choir there was a broader range.

When I got to college I *was* shocked that there were people who, say, in the name of Christianity didn't believe in evolution, but I wasn't shocked that there were other opinions in the world. A lot of my classmates were pretty stunned that ______ isn't just "the way it is".

I'm sure there are non-religious communities that can provide that same broader experience for a child, but none spring to mind. Maybe a very active community center or social club.


Trudy Booth - May 21, 2011 4:48:04 pm PDT #9217 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I thought there were a few books and some texts of the OT in Aramaic. Not a lot, to be sure but a few passages, originally.

IIRC, the deal with Aramaic is that chunks of the Bible were written in Hebrew and Greek about things that had happened to Aramaic speakers -- so an understanding of that initial translation from the oral tradition is pretty important.