It's right under item 20,306: Worrying about corkboards becoming animate and eating me.
I'm a right bitch, I am. MWAHAHAHAHA!
This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?
Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Strix - May 21, 2011 10:00:57 am PDT #9115 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Trudy Booth - May 21, 2011 10:05:58 am PDT #9116 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
It's been two years since Popgate broke. All those breatlessly horrified people and, from anything I can find on Google, no one has bothered to follow up and see if Pop has felt like revealing Pop's gender yet -- Pop is nearly 4 1/2 now.
Connie Neil - May 21, 2011 10:27:57 am PDT #9117 of 30001
brillig
I wonder how long you can go with that before the requirements of public restrooms force the issue. Once you get to school locker rooms, it would have to be declared one way or another, I would think.
sumi - May 21, 2011 10:33:39 am PDT #9118 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Well, those kids are being homeschooled.
Connie Neil - May 21, 2011 10:35:31 am PDT #9119 of 30001
brillig
At the very least, if noticeable tits show up, that cat's out of the bag.
sumi - May 21, 2011 10:37:51 am PDT #9120 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Well, I don't think the idea is to keep the secret forever but to allow the child to choose it's likes/interests etc on it's own. So that nobody will be making judgements on what the kid should be like based on whether s/he's a boy or a girl.
Trudy Booth - May 21, 2011 10:57:17 am PDT #9121 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I know with Pop, and it seems with Storm, its really a matter of avoiding the frenetic PINK OR BLUE!?!?!? imprinting infants and toddlers are subject to.
The articles keep saying "genderless" but that's not quite it -- more like "gender necessary". It really isn't necessary for the lady at the Shop Rite to declare that strong kicking means a football player or a ballerina -- nor is it necessary for the kid to hear it.
I felt like going all anarchist on a toy store and burning the shit down when I found a three pack of pink and white soccer, foot, and basket balls for two year old girls. Really? Seriously? Shut the fuck up, people.
Liese S. - May 21, 2011 11:05:24 am PDT #9122 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
I'm kinda okay with that. I don't think it's a battle the parents can win, but why not spare the kid a little of it if they can? It's so ridiculous at this point anyway.
Okay. To do in the next hour: shower, dress, staple brochures, pack all the CRASH Japan stuff, feed self, dog, and spouse, check on spouse, Walgreens on the way for Advil, Nyquil, kleenexes, something I misremember, get to rehearsal.
Oh, and water the plants. I forgot to water the plants even after telling you guys. Doing it now.
Jessica - May 21, 2011 11:09:14 am PDT #9123 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
The problem I have with making kids stuff "gender neutral" is that in practice, it almost always just means getting rid of all the girly stuff. It's not "gender neutral," it's "boy-by-default."
Amy - May 21, 2011 11:22:06 am PDT #9124 of 30001
Because books.
I imagine once you want to enroll your child in public school, they're going to insist on knowing the child's gender, too.
It's also an interesting look at how much gender can mean or not mean, to the parent as well the individual. I had Sara in something with flowers on it (but not excessively pink) before she had much hair, and someone in the supermarket remarked on how adorable *he* was. And it hurt, stupidly, because to me Sara was a girl -- it was already part of her identity for me, whatever that means.