Come on. You drop by for a cup of coffee, and the world's not ending? Please.

Connor ,'Not Fade Away'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - May 20, 2011 6:27:30 pm PDT #9046 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

"Oh Great Pumpkin! I'm sincere!"

Heh.

That reminds me of the sci-fi trope of a character who has to abandon all doubt in order to accomplish something. Like the ST:TOS "OK Corral" episode, where the bullets won't hurt them only if they have no doubt (so Spock mind-melds with them or something to remove all doubt). Or when Morpheus tells Neo he has to let go of all his doubts in order to have his Matrixy superpowers.

That trope's always bugged me (even as a kid, with the above-mentioned Trek episode). Why is getting rid of al your doubt the key to some great power?

What it comes down to is absolute certainty bugs me. I mean, it kind of freaks me out.


§ ita § - May 20, 2011 6:30:08 pm PDT #9047 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What it comes down to is absolute certainty bugs me. I mean, it kind of freaks me out.

That's why you'll never the The One, padawan.

How do you order whiskey with water?


le nubian - May 20, 2011 6:30:50 pm PDT #9048 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

For Matrix, I don't think it was letting go of doubt, but that Neo had to believe (which I consider a different thing). Morpheus never had doubt, Neo did but persisted anyway.


Liese S. - May 20, 2011 6:32:48 pm PDT #9049 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Half an hour after rehearsal`s supposed to start and the leader isn`t even at the hotel yet. The pastor is waiting there to bring him here. Everyone else has been here an hour. By the time he gets here, two of the band will have to leave. Not off to a good start, new guy.


-t - May 20, 2011 6:34:48 pm PDT #9050 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

How do you order whiskey with water?

Do you mean, how do you ask for it in a bar, or which do you pour into the glass first? Or something else?

I don't know the answers to either of those, but I'm curious about the question.


tommyrot - May 20, 2011 6:37:17 pm PDT #9051 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

That's why you'll never the The One, padawan.

You know, I've always known that. And realizing that made me kind of sad.

I guess I mean I envy certainty in some way. Because I know my brain just isn't wired that way. Even at my most religious phase (when I was 12), I once had a strong feeling I'd be an atheist by the time I was an adult. Which is what happened.


§ ita § - May 20, 2011 6:41:05 pm PDT #9052 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you mean, how do you ask for it in a bar, or which do you pour into the glass first?

How you order it in a bar.


Trudy Booth - May 20, 2011 6:41:17 pm PDT #9053 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

You don't exactly have to be an athiest to find Camping nuts.


tommyrot - May 20, 2011 6:43:39 pm PDT #9054 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

You know, when I believed Camping was completely convinced in tomorrow's Rapture, I kinda' felt sorry for him (well, I might have if he wasn't so obnoxious in his beliefs). But knowing he just cynically exploited his follower for gain? Well, now I hate him.


-t - May 20, 2011 6:46:23 pm PDT #9055 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

You know, I've always known that.

Are you certain?

I'd order "whiskey and water" but I'm not sure what that would get me or if there would need to be further clarification. Used to be "whiskey and branch water" was a thing, but I'm not sure (a) what that was or (b) if that terminology is still in use.

t /not helping

I'll pretend that actually closes.