You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Apr 20, 2011 8:09:19 am PDT #4271 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Baby Laughs Hysterically at Dog Eating Bubbles

...and Matilda will want to watch that about 19 times in a row.


§ ita § - Apr 20, 2011 8:12:35 am PDT #4272 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So babies will laugh at anything and also cry at anything, but the crying gets either less filming or fewer pageviews?


Steph L. - Apr 20, 2011 8:13:04 am PDT #4273 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

This may be relevant to our interests. Mini-crossbows [link]

Tim said I'm not allowed to have a crossbow. Something about the fact that I'm already a klutz.

...I don't know if that applies to mini-crossbows, though. Hmmm....

t edit I'm misrepresenting him. He *did* say I could have a Nerf crossbow. I told him that would not protect the world from vampires.


tommyrot - Apr 20, 2011 8:17:26 am PDT #4274 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

This is news to me (eta: The part about not challenging these new laws for fear of Roe v. Wade being overturned):

Analysis: The death of Roe v. Wade

Since the start of this year, 916 measures seeking to regulate reproductive health have been introduced in 49 states. According to the Guttmacher Institute, by the end of March, 15 laws had been enacted in seven states. These laws include an expansion of the waiting period in South Dakota from 24 to 72 hours and a requirement that counseling from "crisis pregnancy centers" include scientifically flawed data on risk factors. There are new regulations in Utah and Virginia governing abortion clinics. Legislation has been introduced in 13 states requiring that women have an ultrasound procedure before having an abortion—and in seven of those states, the woman must view the fetus and listen to a detailed verbal description as well. Measures have been introduced in 17 states copying a Nebraska law banning abortion at 20 weeks, on the theory—again based on questionable medical data—that this is when a fetus can feel pain.

It hardly bears observing here that most of these measures are against the law. That law is Roe v. Wade. Making abortion illegal after 18 or 20 weeks doesn't meet the viability test that was laid out in Roe, and 72-hour waiting periods and doing away with health exceptions for the mother would also violate both Roe and its progeny.

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The risk of challenging these clearly unconstitutional laws and then losing at the Supreme Court is evidently so high, according to Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, that it's not worth taking. As she explained last week to Rachel Maddow, the fear that Justice Samuel Alito would vote to overturn Roe is so deep that reproductive rights groups may be opting to leave the state bans in place. And, as she conceded in that interview, wherever unconstitutional state abortion bans go unchallenged, they become law.

Part of me wants to say, take it to the Supreme Court anyway, and if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the resulting public outcry will result in more liberal Supreme Court justices in the future. But if it's overturned it could take many years before abortion is made legal in all states again.


DavidS - Apr 20, 2011 8:19:53 am PDT #4275 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Part of me wants to say, take it to the Supreme Court anyway, and if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the resulting public outcry will result in more liberal Supreme Court justices in the future.

Yeah, that's the wrong part of your brain to listen to. I remember progressive lefties saying the same shit about Bush getting into office. "And that will galvanize the left and la la Utopia."


sumi - Apr 20, 2011 8:20:13 am PDT #4276 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Cheetah cubs!


DavidS - Apr 20, 2011 8:21:51 am PDT #4277 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

When I think of the damage the Bush administration did, I always remember Sarah Vowell on the Daily Show saying, "When Bush got elected I cried because I was afraid he'd ruin the nation's water supply. So...kind of a failure of imagination there."


Jessica - Apr 20, 2011 8:23:07 am PDT #4278 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

but the crying gets either less filming or fewer pageviews?

Crying isn't usually as funny to third parties. Unless it's babies eating lemons.


tommyrot - Apr 20, 2011 8:23:07 am PDT #4279 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I remember progressive lefties saying the same shit about Bush getting into office. "And that will galvanize the left and la la Utopia."

Yeah. Or, you know, "Vote for Republicans, because they'll screw up the country so bad it will make the socialist revolution occur much sooner."

Methinks there's a flaw or two in that plan.


tommyrot - Apr 20, 2011 8:24:17 am PDT #4280 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

"When Bush got elected I cried because I was afraid he'd ruin the nation's water supply. So...kind of a failure of imagination there."

Yeah, that was a funny and very sad statement....