My whole life, I've never loved anything else.

Oz ,'Him'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Sep 27, 2011 6:49:15 am PDT #28614 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I suppose if he admitted to needing help enough to seek it it might do him some good? Then again can modern mental health professionals really do anything for sociopaths? Can therapy even do a lot for assholes?


DavidS - Sep 27, 2011 6:51:56 am PDT #28615 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Then again can modern mental health professionals really do anything for sociopaths?

Not really. It's a personality disorder. They simply lack the capacity to feel empathy. Your best bet is to train them to be a stockbroker.


msbelle - Sep 27, 2011 6:52:47 am PDT #28616 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I don't care that we talk about him here, but backchannel and blocking is not stuff we encourage discussing on the boards.

Mostly I think it is a waste of everyone's energy. He's not very interesting, nothing new to the story, sad and pathetic much like any number of people we encounter on the interwebs.


Vortex - Sep 27, 2011 6:54:36 am PDT #28617 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I thought that i was special, getting the request. I didn't know him well back in the day, but I clearly remember the drama when he "died".


Consuela - Sep 27, 2011 6:55:02 am PDT #28618 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Good point, msbelle.

That said, at least he didn't create twelve sockpuppets like that girl Jessie did.

... or did he? t gives Tommyrot the side-eye


amych - Sep 27, 2011 6:55:23 am PDT #28619 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Is it bad to admit I never really cared for him when we thought he was a real soooooper physicist (or whatever) who got bit by a weremonkey and had Superman for a son and had a squatter living in his house?

Not bad, and not just you - he was that kind of (sociopathic) charming at first that sweeps people up in its wake, but then (at least for me) he quickly degenerated into the kind of sociopathic not-charming that sucks all the oxygen from the room and makes it all about him.

Even when he was still here, he seemed to me like a major asshole; by the time he started dropping out for months at a time and then coming back to bask in the attention that the latest wild stories got him, he was already a bad-actor, communitywise. He'd come in, make it all about him, derail existing conversations, shine the thousand-watt smile at a handful of people, blow off or frankly insult a lot of other people, and vanish again. In the mean time, he fucked with people in real life, he blew off his promises to the community, he was a dick.

I'm'a vote no secret FB group. I'm kinda sick of backchanneling about it, of feeling like we can't talk about it here -- I frankly don't care if he's lurking, because that just makes him more obviously a coward and a buffoon. It also might help us to get beyond flinching every time: good on flea et al for bringing it up here rather than going elsewhere to say "OMG" under lock and key. (I'm incidentally totally surprised that I feel this vehemently about this. It just came over me.)


beekaytee - Sep 27, 2011 6:57:15 am PDT #28620 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Then again can modern mental health professionals really do anything for sociopaths? Can therapy even do a lot for assholes?

Personality disorders can be managed, but not 'cured.' Sociopathy, narcissism, borderline tendencies, psychopathy, are the most difficult to identify internally. That makes them rarely addressed at all.

As for the assholery, I bat about 800, success-wise. Then again, any asshole who makes it to my couch has a different sort of motivation.


billytea - Sep 27, 2011 6:58:17 am PDT #28621 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

That said, at least he didn't create twelve sockpuppets like that girl Jessie did.

If I were to do that, I would keenly feel the sudden shortfall in actual socks.


§ ita § - Sep 27, 2011 6:59:30 am PDT #28622 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then again, any asshole who makes it to my couch has a different sort of motivation.

Took me a while to work out you weren't on the couch with them.

As you were! Don't mind me!


beekaytee - Sep 27, 2011 7:01:11 am PDT #28623 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Took me a while to work out you weren't on the couch with them.

Does it scream how sad my life is that I wouldn't mind that?