What is your childhood trauma?

Cordelia ,'Lessons'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Sep 22, 2011 4:30:40 am PDT #27742 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Unlike with the Davis case, the man in Texas admitted the crime and said he would have murdered Byrd again if it had to do it all over.

The world is a better place without him in it and yet, I don't believe in capital punishment. I do wonder what CP would look like if we only performed state sanctioned murder against those who confessed and showed no remorse.


Jesse - Sep 22, 2011 4:36:46 am PDT #27743 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I do believe I'd still speak out against the death penalty in the horrible chance either of them were killed on duty.

I was just responding to this from Theo.


Jessica - Sep 22, 2011 4:41:10 am PDT #27744 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't believe allowing the government to execute an evil person makes the world a better place.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 22, 2011 4:41:48 am PDT #27745 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

In first world problems, I just realized that my cat peed on the shoulder of the dress I am wearing! I have to spend 10 more hours in this dress.


§ ita § - Sep 22, 2011 4:47:51 am PDT #27746 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks, Sox. I would never have noticed that myself, what with all the time I (don't) spend on Twitter. Password changed, although I have no idea how they hacked/spoofed me.

Shit! I just remembered I need to take my stupid car in to the shop, and I said I'd take it in at 7. Why can't I put my insomnia to better use? Why do I just feel like crap raked over?


Fred Pete - Sep 22, 2011 4:50:31 am PDT #27747 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Shortly after I started law school, two acquaintances of mine were kidnapped just off campus. One was let go shortly afterward, the other was murdered. The guy that did it was caught a few days later. The story (never confirmed) was that he led the police to the body in exchange for the DA not requesting the death penalty.

In my guts, I wanted to tear the guy to pieces. Even several years later, just before I graduated, I freaked out while watching an on-campus TV production involving an assault of a woman on a different part of the campus. But my head recognized that hearts like mine are the reason we have a justice system. (Which isn't to say the legal system is perfect. But at least it's an effort to get away from the personal vendetta as justice. And it works well enough often enough that I wouldn't want to toss it out entirely to replace it with something completely different.)

As for the death penalty, my head can't get to complete opposition. Some crimes are so horrendous that I can't think of any other appropriate punishment (John Wayne Gacy comes to mind). At the same time, I have very deep problems with the way it's applied in this country. Others have mentioned above the unequal imposition of the death penalty. I also cringe whenever I see/hear people cheering an execution -- the death penalty should be rare, reserved only for the most horrendous of crimes. And when done, it should be done soberly and reluctantly -- after all, even if the death penalty is appropriate in a particular case, a life is being ended. And that means a person is taken away from others -- parents, children, siblings -- who may have done nothing wrong on their own.

And an issue that's being raised some now but should have been raised more strongly a long time ago. There's no way to make amends to a wrongly convicted person who's been executed. It's possible to compensate someone who's been wrongly imprisoned -- maybe not perfectly, but at least something can be done. Once someone's dead, there's no way to make up for any errors. And as much as the people who cheered Rick Perry don't want to face it, innocent people do get convicted. Humans aren't perfect.


Cashmere - Sep 22, 2011 4:52:31 am PDT #27748 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Sophia, can you get a little club soda to clean up the shoulder?

People try to hack my Cashmere twitter name all the time. I thought the rapper from Brooklyn wanted to buy it but he never came through.

I'm against the death penalty on a number of grounds. It's not fairly applied, it's not a deterrent and it costs more money to put someone to death than it does to incarcerate them for life. Also if there is the slightest chance you might execute an innocent person, why do it?


Jessica - Sep 22, 2011 4:57:28 am PDT #27749 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm avoiding thinking about the death penalty by researching urban chickens. Yes, I know I live in an apartment. I don't care. I want some chickens.


Steph L. - Sep 22, 2011 5:02:48 am PDT #27750 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I'm avoiding thinking about the death penalty by researching urban chickens. Yes, I know I live in an apartment. I don't care. I want some chickens.

People who live within city limits in Cincy -- even if it's a neighborhood with houses that have yards, rather than a downtown loft apartment -- are not allowed to have chickens. So there's this burgeoning underground chicken movement, and I am not joking. I know of at least 2 people on my wee street who have coops in their backyard. Basically, it's not like the cops have the time to look for people to bust for illegal chicken possession, so the only time it's an issue is if a neighbor reports them.

We have one neighbor with chickens and bees. (Housed separately.)


Sophia Brooks - Sep 22, 2011 5:03:28 am PDT #27751 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Sophia, can you get a little club soda to clean up the shoulder?

Thank you for giving me the idea. I didn't find club soda, but I was able to get peroxide, which helped. I wish I had vinegar, because peroxide and vinegar seems to totally neutralize the odor.

Of course I am meeting with my big!boss today, who also just got promoted so she is the uber!boss.