You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JenP - Sep 19, 2011 8:53:19 am PDT #27229 of 30001

Jessica - Sep 19, 2011 8:55:58 am PDT #27230 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Your business made $6.3 million. He says, Sure, but after I pay the employees, etc., my takehome is only a fraction of that -- $600K. So then by the time he feeds his family, he only has $400K left to reinvest in the business.

I'ma go out on a limb and say that a $6.3 million/year business is not "small" in any sense of the word that matters.


le nubian - Sep 19, 2011 9:06:42 am PDT #27231 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

guess what, it just meets the definition of small business:

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under 500 employees, making less than $7 million.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 19, 2011 9:13:34 am PDT #27232 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

And WHY, again, do people living below the poverty level continue to vote for these assholes? WHY?!? Because they DO. They just. keep. voting. for assholes who literally don't care if their constituents starve to death. WHY?

I think part of it is that they are choosing between a well-oiled PR machine that is channeling their anger toward people in the same class and poorer while also intimating that they could aspire to be the $6.3 million dollar man and telling them that progressives think they are stupid, and progressives calling them stupid. We do not have the same well-oiled PR machine.

I think the left should start fighting on a morals basis. Not exclusively religious morals, but we could point out how Jesus' teachings align with helping the poor. If people want to get all het up about immorality, let them get het up about the immorality of convincing people to take mortgages they know they can't afford, taking bailout money and then not paying taxes, taking tax cuts made for "job creation" and then making people work longer and harder for less money, or sending work overseas, of letting people who do not have health insurance die or go bankrupt, of letting children in what is supposed to be the "best country in the world" have such a high poverty rate/


§ ita § - Sep 19, 2011 9:14:02 am PDT #27233 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You got a problem with that?

I'm just saying...


JenP - Sep 19, 2011 9:32:05 am PDT #27234 of 30001

My Daily Show FB feed just linked to a blurb about the show's two Emmy awards last night, and it had a video link to the Palin/Trump pizza bit. That will never stop making me laugh and laugh.


Strix - Sep 19, 2011 9:32:10 am PDT #27235 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I read all the insightful comments on the Fleming quote, and it still just fills me with rage. He CAN afford a tax hike if his biz makes 6.3M and he has 400K left after he feeds and educates his family.

I don't care. Even if he started out with a spiral notebook and ate Ramen for 12 years, good for him! Yay. But he can afford a tax increase.

Also, on a happier note, Kathy, rock on this your new car! I want to get Dan a auto start for his car SO BAD this year for Xmas, since my poor skinny, cold love leaves for work at 6 am on the cold, icy Kansas winter mornings. I think you will love it!


le nubian - Sep 19, 2011 9:46:16 am PDT #27236 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

and forgive me, but what is the tax increase? Like $6,000? or is it $60,000. Either way, he can fucking afford it.

Write off some equipment and be done with it.


Kathy A - Sep 19, 2011 9:51:44 am PDT #27237 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

But he can afford a tax increase.

I love that Obama's naming his new tax-increase proposal after Warren Buffet, since he's the one who said that the really rich can afford a tax increase.

Also, on a happier note, Kathy, rock on this your new car! I want to get Dan a auto start for his car SO BAD this year for Xmas, since my poor skinny, cold love leaves for work at 6 am on the cold, icy Kansas winter mornings. I think you will love it!

For only $375, I figured it'd be worth it. My car sits outside all day long, both at home and at work, so it'll be nice to be able to have it all heated up before I even leave my 3rd-floor apartment. My friend Tami loves hers, which she had installed at Best Buy.


JenP - Sep 19, 2011 9:52:23 am PDT #27238 of 30001

I don't disagree. I also am not surprised he'd say otherwise. It just wasn't the super cluelessly insensitive statement that I first thought it was. Still not exactly in touch with the pulse of the nation and what Jesse said about just shuttign it down.