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Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Sep 19, 2011 8:39:44 am PDT #27221 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And WHY, again, do people living below the poverty level continue to vote for these assholes? WHY?!? Because they DO. They just. keep. voting. for assholes who literally don't care if their constituents starve to death. WHY?

(Which is a version of my "Why do gay people vote for politicians who would rather see them DEAD?" question.)


Allyson - Sep 19, 2011 8:40:58 am PDT #27222 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think we're getting to the pitchfork and torches point.


JenP - Sep 19, 2011 8:43:06 am PDT #27223 of 30001

I'm not questioning the stupidity of the statement, but I'm hella surprised that he mashes together his personal take-home with the ongoing costs of running the business.

Yeah, I hope he's just oversimplifying to make his point, and he probably is.


Allyson - Sep 19, 2011 8:44:07 am PDT #27224 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

And WHY, again, do people living below the poverty level continue to vote for these assholes? WHY?!? Because they DO. They just. keep. voting. for assholes who literally don't care if their constituents starve to death. WHY?

Because of the babies, Steph. It's because of the unborn babies.


Kate P. - Sep 19, 2011 8:44:33 am PDT #27225 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

BECAUSE IT COSTS $200K TO FEED HIS FAMILY.

OK, but to be fair, he might have been using "feed my family" to mean "feed, house, clothe, and educate my family," don't you think? Not that $200K isn't a lot of money even for all that, but one or two kids in college, say, would take up a significant chunk of that cash.


Steph L. - Sep 19, 2011 8:45:07 am PDT #27226 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And WHY, again, do people living below the poverty level continue to vote for these assholes? WHY?!? Because they DO. They just. keep. voting. for assholes who literally don't care if their constituents starve to death. WHY?

Because of the babies, Steph. It's because of the unborn babies.

Oh, yeah! Who can starve to death once they make it out of the birth canal.


Jesse - Sep 19, 2011 8:52:40 am PDT #27227 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, but to be fair, he might have been using "feed my family" to mean "feed, house, clothe, and educate my family," don't you think? Not that $200K isn't a lot of money even for all that, but one or two kids in college, say, would take up a significant chunk of that cash.

Of course. Mostly I just think he was stupid for talking about all of it. When she started with "your businesses brought in $6.3m last year," he should have just said that was gross not net, and shut it down.


JenP - Sep 19, 2011 8:53:19 am PDT #27228 of 30001

Yeah, Kate, I agree (edited to take out the part where I decided your rigthness, which I'm pretty sure you didn't need me to do). I think his point about $6.3M actually ending up as $200K for him is one maybe worth making in terms of understanding what owning a business really means. I think not understanding how it would sound and be reported was his mistake here. I mean, dude, you make 4x median(?) income just from your businesses -- understand that it will be hard for most people to sympathize. But, maybe the reporter was asking about him specifically.

What I want to know, really, is how much does he pay in business taxes, and how much would an increase of x% really affect his bottom line -- how much would it actually affect that final number? Would he really have to lay off people? Sure, his business decisions might be affected, but does that just mean you don't replace some equipment as soon as you'd like?


JenP - Sep 19, 2011 8:53:19 am PDT #27229 of 30001

Jessica - Sep 19, 2011 8:55:58 am PDT #27230 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Your business made $6.3 million. He says, Sure, but after I pay the employees, etc., my takehome is only a fraction of that -- $600K. So then by the time he feeds his family, he only has $400K left to reinvest in the business.

I'ma go out on a limb and say that a $6.3 million/year business is not "small" in any sense of the word that matters.