Oh and w/r/t your father-in-law's offer to help, he is probably feeling scared and useless in the face of this too and wants to do something concrete. Bob's mom and sister offered to come out when he had his first surgery and Bob was pretty hesitant at first (not wanting having them here to be a burden on me and knowing there was not much they could actually do to help). I didn't mind them coming and knew it would probably be a huge thing for them to just be able to see him so I encouraged him to tell them to come.
Mal: Does.. um.. does this seem kind of tight? Kaylee: Shows off your backside.
'Shindig'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
lisah - Sep 17, 2011 11:36:11 am PDT #26824 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate
Allyson - Sep 17, 2011 11:41:32 am PDT #26825 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
It was Pat Robertson, Jesse. Falwell's dead.
javachik - Sep 17, 2011 11:43:11 am PDT #26826 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Thanks for the advice, folks. (Calli, it's not weather-related, thank goodness - people on East Coast are in a different hell altogether!)
Jesse - Sep 17, 2011 11:49:15 am PDT #26827 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
It was Pat Robertson, Jesse. Falwell's dead.
Oh yeah. Oops. Anyway, I think it's bananas.
Well, see, because abandoning your spouse in need is better than adultery. Which the guy was committing by dating women while his wife was zonked.
I think so many things about this. First that getting divorced doesn't necessarily mean abandoning, actually. Also that some people get legally divorced for financial reasons in these circumstances. Also that dating isn't necessarily adultery. Also that adultery might not be the worst thing in the world, anyway. Also that shouldn't someone who's so up in arms about the bible and morality and marriage be against divorce?
Anyway.
Allyson - Sep 17, 2011 11:50:49 am PDT #26828 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Oh yeah. Oops. Anyway, I think it's bananas.
I think Sullivan posted something to the affect that if his reasoning is that marriage is just a contract (and that seems to be his reasoning) and not a holy union, that his issue with gay marriage is moot.
Dana - Sep 17, 2011 11:51:45 am PDT #26829 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
It's just one more thing that makes me wish a cartoon anvil would fall on Pat Robertson's head.
Jesse - Sep 17, 2011 11:52:08 am PDT #26830 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
This is what I'm saying. If HE's saying that you can get divorced when your marriage is inconvenient and difficult, then WTF.
bon bon - Sep 17, 2011 11:52:13 am PDT #26831 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I thought his reasoning was that the afflicted spouse was "gone" from the marriage, making it not wrongful.
I don't view it as abandonment either, since the person might already be in a care situation. They might find someone else, too -- Sandra Day O'Conner's husband did.
Allyson - Sep 17, 2011 11:55:28 am PDT #26832 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I thought his reasoning was that the afflicted spouse was "gone" from the marriage, making it not wrongful.
I misunderstood, then. Or got shitty data.
Dana - Sep 17, 2011 11:56:20 am PDT #26833 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
He said Alzheimer's was like being dead, so, "til death do us part."