Are these people all grownups? (I mean, I know the answer is actually no, but chronologically?)
There's more than one way to skin a cat. And I happen to know that's factually true.
Mayor ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jesse - Aug 19, 2011 9:01:51 am PDT #21135 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
bon bon - Aug 19, 2011 9:28:12 am PDT #21136 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
At the time, he was fairly convinced the guy was guilty.
There's no evidence that he did it, with the exception of a forced/retracted confession from another kid with a 70 IQ.
Jesse - Aug 19, 2011 9:29:42 am PDT #21137 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
But man, that plea situation seems like a fairly shitty deal, being out of prison notwithstanding.
zuisa - Aug 19, 2011 9:32:21 am PDT #21138 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)
Are these people all grownups? (I mean, I know the answer is actually no, but chronologically?)
Eh, they're all between 20 and 23. So sort of?
Amy - Aug 19, 2011 9:39:37 am PDT #21139 of 30001
Because books.
There's no evidence that he did it, with the exception of a forced/retracted confession from another kid with a 70 IQ.
Wow, I had forgotten all about that story. It's weird to read about it now -- satanic rituals really were the Big Bad there for a while, weren't they?
bon bon - Aug 19, 2011 9:41:21 am PDT #21140 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Yeah, it only took three documentaries, the involvement of some of the world's most famous musicians, millions of dollars raised, multiple witness recantations, pressure from the families of the victims, exclusion by DNA plus no evidence, and 18 years to get three clearly innocent kids released from jail.
Amy - Aug 19, 2011 9:42:59 am PDT #21141 of 30001
Because books.
It is sobering to read that one of the victim's families is convinced they're innocent, too.
brenda m - Aug 19, 2011 10:03:16 am PDT #21142 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Yeah, it only took three documentaries, the involvement of some of the world's most famous musicians, millions of dollars raised, multiple witness recantations, pressure from the families of the victims, exclusion by DNA plus no evidence, and 18 years to get three clearly innocent kids released from jail.
At least they're not in Texas? [link]
Frankenbuddha - Aug 19, 2011 10:32:59 am PDT #21143 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Why is my thumb suddenly swollen? I haven't jammed it or strained it in the last ten minutes, but the base of the joint is rapidly swelling and becoming tender. The fuck? It's the same side as the IV, but the IV was in the forearm.
Yikes, ita. This sounds like what I've been battling for the last couple of weeks (started at the base of the forefinger, spread to the base of the thumb, currently now in the base of the pinkie). It feels like the problems I have intermittantly with my feet, which is arthritis, so I hope it's not the same thing for you.
ION, OMG we just got hailpocalypse in Boston! I've never seen weather like that up close and personal (and got back to the office from an errand with only about ten minutes to spare before it hit).
javachik - Aug 19, 2011 10:39:13 am PDT #21144 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Wow, I had forgotten all about that story. It's weird to read about it now -- satanic rituals really were the Big Bad there for a while, weren't they?
Yep. Unfortunately the middle brother of my surrogate family was killed in the early 90s as part of a ritual. The Sacramento Bee had a good series of articles on it, but unfortunately most of their archives aren't free. The family has long since mostly healed, but everytime I see Joe's daughter (who was a toddler when Joe was murdered), it's heartbreaking. Jessica has his eyes. I'm happy to share Joe's last name in email if anyone is interested in reading about him. I know the killers served prison time but I think they're all released by now.
ETA: It was in 1988. Weird, totally thought it was 1990s.