Patron: That girl is a witch. Mal: Yeah, but she's our witch.

'Safe'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Aug 16, 2011 6:50:04 pm PDT #20722 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Is this woman super-Christian?

Not that I'm aware of.

I learned something today that I found very enlightening about her methodology.

When her husband isn't doing something she wants, instead of actually saying anything, she pretends she's talking in her sleep.


megan walker - Aug 16, 2011 6:51:36 pm PDT #20723 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Is her husband named Tino?


Zenkitty - Aug 16, 2011 6:53:46 pm PDT #20724 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I am not advocating voodoo. Unless you can actually make the fetish-doll thing work. I just mean, fight fire with fire. Instead of politely responding to "*I* will be talking to X and Y" with "well, okay, keep me in the loop, then" try something like "Well, since it's MY responsibility, I need to be the one talking to so-and-so, and you need to cc me on any correspondence you might have" or whatever. Push back. She already dislikes you and you're "on her list", ooooo, you already know she's sabotaging you, so what the hell more do you have to fear from her? If it's your job and your responsibility, then you do it, regardless of what she's doing (or not doing), take over, run her over with the ruthless bulldozer of your efficiency, document everything, and if she has a problem, make her tell you in an email what exactly is her problem with you getting shit done that she's sat on for years. And if there are people who've been waiting on her to get their shit handled for years and you come in and actually do that, who do you think those people will soon be talking to? You. She can't "take over" and do a job without actually *doing it* unless someone lets her.

Or, you know, might be bad advice. There's always voodoo.


Maria - Aug 16, 2011 6:54:55 pm PDT #20725 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

When her husband isn't doing something she wants, instead of actually saying anything, she pretends she's talking in her sleep.

OMG, if I didn't know better, I'd swear you are making her up. Sock puppets are more belivable than she is.


Zenkitty - Aug 16, 2011 7:01:43 pm PDT #20726 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

When her husband isn't doing something she wants, instead of actually saying anything, she pretends she's talking in her sleep.

That is the most ridiculously passive-aggressive thing I have ever heard in my life. That is sitcom material, right there.


le nubian - Aug 16, 2011 7:02:55 pm PDT #20727 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

'Suela, I swear I now want you to "sleepwalk" into her office and tell her off, pretending to be asleep.


Consuela - Aug 16, 2011 7:04:13 pm PDT #20728 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

try something like "Well, since it's MY responsibility, I need to be the one talking to so-and-so, and you need to cc me on any correspondence you might have" or whatever. Push back.

Yeah, it doesn't actually make any difference, is the problem. I've done that. I've done the "I'm the program manager" thing, and the "we're all on the same team" thing, and whatever, and none of it makes a difference.

I have no authority over her and no one who does has ever exercised their authority. She is functionally unmanaged.

I'd swear you are making her up

I know. It's totally Mad Men.

Damn, I'm supposed to be on vacation. And instead I keep stewing over this.

My next idea is to ask my boss for a twice-monthly meeting, all of ten or fifteen minutes, to review project status.


Maria - Aug 16, 2011 7:12:15 pm PDT #20729 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Damn, I'm supposed to be on vacation. And instead I keep stewing over this.

Perhaps I'm all sunny-side-of-the-street on this, but it might not hurt to get yourself out of this environment, even though it's not on your terms. If you're stewing on this during your downtime, that's not good for your mental health.

Feel free to tell me to shut up...


DavidS - Aug 16, 2011 7:29:32 pm PDT #20730 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I know. It's totally Mad Men.

I don't know what you've been watching, but Mad Men is not a bad wacky sitcom.


Consuela - Aug 16, 2011 7:45:38 pm PDT #20731 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Mad Men is not a bad wacky sitcom

No, but it does have a lot of cutthroat office-politics informed by weird gender dynamics.