Hey, man, where are my pants? I have my hippo dignity!

Oz ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Jun 15, 2011 6:14:56 am PDT #12793 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, reason sucks.

Reason Seen More as Weapon Than Path to Truth

For centuries thinkers have assumed that the uniquely human capacity for reasoning has existed to let people reach beyond mere perception and reflex in the search for truth. Rationality allowed a solitary thinker to blaze a path to philosophical, moral and scientific enlightenment.

Now some researchers are suggesting that reason evolved for a completely different purpose: to win arguments. Rationality, by this yardstick (and irrationality too, but we’ll get to that) is nothing more or less than a servant of the hard-wired compulsion to triumph in the debating arena. According to this view, bias, lack of logic and other supposed flaws that pollute the stream of reason are instead social adaptations that enable one group to persuade (and defeat) another. Certitude works, however sharply it may depart from the truth.

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“Reasoning doesn’t have this function of helping us to get better beliefs and make better decisions,” said Hugo Mercier, who is a co-author of the journal article, with Dan Sperber. “It was a purely social phenomenon. It evolved to help us convince others and to be careful when others try to convince us.” Truth and accuracy were beside the point.

Indeed, Mr. Sperber, a member of the Jean-Nicod research institute in Paris, first developed a version of the theory in 2000 to explain why evolution did not make the manifold flaws in reasoning go the way of the prehensile tail and the four-legged stride. Looking at a large body of psychological research, Mr. Sperber wanted to figure out why people persisted in picking out evidence that supported their views and ignored the rest — what is known as confirmation bias — leading them to hold on to a belief doggedly in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence.


Jessica - Jun 15, 2011 6:18:13 am PDT #12794 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Now some researchers are suggesting that reason evolved for a completely different purpose: to win arguments.

IS NOT.


Toddson - Jun 15, 2011 6:19:21 am PDT #12795 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

is too!


Kathy A - Jun 15, 2011 6:23:48 am PDT #12796 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Look, I came here for an argument! You're just contradicting me.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2011 6:26:25 am PDT #12797 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm sorry; this is Abuse.


Connie Neil - Jun 15, 2011 6:27:06 am PDT #12798 of 30001
brillig

I love this place.

(I hesitated too long and Teppy took my line about abuse)


shrift - Jun 15, 2011 6:51:34 am PDT #12799 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Last night I had baked salmon with lemon and dill, and roasted Brussels sprouts. Tonight, it's back to the red lentil dal that I'll never finish eating.


tommyrot - Jun 15, 2011 7:11:52 am PDT #12800 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Darth Vader LEGO Star Wars Key Light


Calli - Jun 15, 2011 7:16:53 am PDT #12801 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Last night I had popcorn for dinner. This morning I had ice cream for breakfast. I haven't done either of these in quite a while--not since I went through my "I'm a grown up and I can eat what I want" phase. Anyway, both were quite satisfying, but I'm going back to vaguely healthy eating notions with my turkey veg wrap at lunch.


SuziQ - Jun 15, 2011 7:23:55 am PDT #12802 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Stopped by my hemotologist's office this morning for a blood test. Have been exhausted and empty brained - ok, more than usual - lately. Took me over a week to think of checking my iron levels. Dur. Won't get the results back for a couple of days, but I feel all accomplished.

Oh, oh, and I have a sushi lunch date to look forward too (with a friend, not a date, date).