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Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Jun 07, 2011 11:20:59 am PDT #11815 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I think that someone who's acting creepy and hanging around a playground eyeing the kids should be dealt with on a case by case basis and that these flat, unilateral ways of dealing with an issue just cause more problems.

Yeah, strangers can be creepy but study after study shows that kids are far more likely to be molested or harmed by someone either in their own family or close to the family. So I sort of feel like WTF about ticketing people eating donuts on a park bench.


Atropa - Jun 07, 2011 11:23:05 am PDT #11816 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I guess I should be careful about going to the park to play on the swings, because I'm hardly ever there with a kid. I just like the swings.


Jesse - Jun 07, 2011 11:24:00 am PDT #11817 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Or just check and see what your local laws and/or regs are.


Stephanie - Jun 07, 2011 11:25:33 am PDT #11818 of 30001
Trust my rage

Over Memorial Day weekend, a friend and I took our kids to a local playground. The playground itself was delineated by woodchips and wooden beams (I guess they were) but it was in the middle of a huge park. At the time, I was sort of wishing there was a fence because the playground was big enough that I couldn't always see my kids.

And then I noticed this guy with a metal detector going through the grass part of the park. He was a little odd looking but I only noticed him because he looked like a park employee at first and then I realized he was searching for stuff.

And then he kept on sweeping, going into the woodchip area, stopping under the playground equipment, digging stuff up in the kids' play area.

I don't think I ever thought he was going to pick up a kid and run. But when he entered the play area, I definitely watched him for a few moments. Intellectually, I think civil liberties are very valuable but the parent in me was thinking "seriously, dude, you have the entire park to do your thing in. This is a kid area."


javachik - Jun 07, 2011 11:28:39 am PDT #11819 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Or just check and see what your local laws and/or regs are.

I think I've seen "no adults without kids" signs before, but I can't recall where. And I'm sure I adhered to it. The signs I'm always looking out for are the No Dogs signs. I don't break that one.


DavidS - Jun 07, 2011 11:39:13 am PDT #11820 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oh David - there's an ad on TV these days about a new phone/web service and the theme is "more cats on the internet!"

My first thought was that it would be your personal idea of hell.

Yeah, I've seen that commercial. I thought of me too and my personal hell! Though, I don't think I muttered anything wittier than a purely sarcastic, "Just the thing."


Burrell - Jun 07, 2011 11:41:57 am PDT #11821 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

When I was about 7 or 8 my friends and I went to the park by ourselves for a picnic. A man came up with a little toddler girl--his own, I assume--and then proceeded to expose himself to us. So even parents in the park can be really fucking creepy sometimes.

[edited to add spoiler font just in case]


P.M. Marc - Jun 07, 2011 11:43:32 am PDT #11822 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, the security theater aspect is what struck me. Most pedophiles are not strangers on the street (or the playgrounds), they're people within the social networks of the children they abuse. Refusing adults unaccompanied by children access to playgrounds doesn't actually do much (if anything) to protect those children, who presumably are already accompanied by an adult anyway.

Totally.

I don't think I ever thought he was going to pick up a kid and run. But when he entered the play area, I definitely watched him for a few moments. Intellectually, I think civil liberties are very valuable but the parent in me was thinking "seriously, dude, you have the entire park to do your thing in. This is a kid area."

The parent in me wouldn't have been bothered. My aunt metal detects. Young adults and kids in their late teens often go to playgrounds (or did, before the paranoia police state) and lose change on the swings. It's prime turf for fun finds.


Fred Pete - Jun 07, 2011 11:56:05 am PDT #11823 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Intellectually, I think civil liberties are very valuable but the parent in me was thinking "seriously, dude, you have the entire park to do your thing in. This is a kid area."

I've developed what I call the "acknowledge" body language in response to people/situations where I feel suspected by strangers for some reason or other. I'll glance over, just enough to convey, "Okay, I know you're there, so I won't run into you. Other than that, I'm ignoring you."


Ginger - Jun 07, 2011 11:59:10 am PDT #11824 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I used to look for change in the area by my elementary school where parents let kids off. Quite a bit of change intended for lunch money and the like ended up in the gravel.

I had an archaeology professor who was a classical archaeologist specializing in coins. His years of practice meant he picked up $200 to $300 in change a year on campus.