I'm a vision of hotliness, and how weird is that? Mystical comas. You know, if you can stand the horror of a higher power hijacking your mind and body so that it can give birth to itself, I really recommend 'em.

Cordelia ,'You're Welcome'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


smonster - Jun 05, 2011 11:00:34 am PDT #11445 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

amyth, that is absolutely putrid. Will she get any kind of retirement or anything?


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 11:02:03 am PDT #11446 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ugh. There comes a point at which you shouldn't have to work out something new. I can't imagine being at the same place for that long, but it should reward itself.

Hearkening back to asexuality, the IO9 article mentioned Dr Who as a poster boy. I don't think so...why would he sleep with Queen Elizabeth I, much less the whole Madame Pompadour and Rose stuff? It's not a priority of his, perhaps, but he's danced before, and he'll probably dance again.

Who's a good example? I was throwing out Sherlock as possibly homoromantic asexual as an example, but to my surprise people (guys) are assuring me he's canonically gay.

I do think Katniss thought very little about sex considering her age. It really stuck out for me in the books. People have said "Well, she had so much on her mind!" Well, so did Peeta, but he had a teen-aged libido.

Unrelatedly, I wanna cheat with my Magical Negro essay. I've been challenged to say why genre TV is decades behind mainstream fiction. But I don't think it is.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 11:31:07 am PDT #11447 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Who's a good example? I was throwing out Sherlock as possibly homoromantic asexual as an example, but to my surprise people (guys) are assuring me he's canonically gay.

My understanding is that book Sherlock is fairly explicitly asexual, without using the word. Cumberbatch!Sherlock seems to be written as asexual (there's an unaired scene [or just unaired in the US?] that addresses it, though, again, without using the actual word). I won't try to argue RDJ!Sherlock as asexual, because it wasn't particularly dealt with in the movie (and seemed to lean towards an interest in whatshername).

Sheldon from BBT, but the IO9 article mentioned him, didn't it?

There's an asexual character (high-school age boy) in the recent YA novel Guardian of the Dead, by Karen Healy.


Typo Boy - Jun 05, 2011 11:42:02 am PDT #11448 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Book Sherlock means Doyle's? Cause I have an (admittedly unoriginal) alternative interpretation. Holmes could only be turned on by someone who was his mental equal or superior. Hence Irene Adler being "The Woman". Moriarty would not work, because he was genuinely evil and Doyle's Holmes was an emotional as well intellectual moralist. (The "emotionless thinking machine" was canonically a pose.) Mycroft was his brother. So Adler was the only equal or superior he ever met he could have had sex with. But she was already in a monogamous relationship, and thus unavailable.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2011 11:45:56 am PDT #11449 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Book Sherlock means Doyle's.

I'm confused. Did someone say it didn't? Or...?

Anyway, I don't have the books at hand, but I'm fairly sure there's a passage where Sherlock indicates, essentially, "Sex? ...eh. NSM."

I take that to mean asexual.


§ ita § - Jun 05, 2011 11:47:29 am PDT #11450 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

there's an unaired scene [or just unaired in the US?] that addresses it, though, again, without using the actual word

Which scene is that? The guy who was telling me first he was gay was using the "Your date"..."I'm not his date!" scene as ammo, but I didn't see the US cut, so I don't know if that was it.


Connie Neil - Jun 05, 2011 12:00:27 pm PDT #11451 of 30001
brillig

In the books, Adventure of the Copper Beeches, I think, Watson is hoping Holmes might have personal interest in the plucky female client. But I can see Book Holmes being on the a- side of the sexual spectrum.

I see RDJ's Holmes as being fairly sexual.

BBC Holmes? I don't know, there's definitely a bromance with John, but I'm waiting to see their version of Irene. He may be too in love with himself.


Typo Boy - Jun 05, 2011 12:02:28 pm PDT #11452 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

There have been a lot of books since Doyle's that starred Sherlock. And as to Sherlock on romance - he is canonically an unreliable narrator when describing his character. Actually not much practical difference between asexual and being turned on only by something so rare he is unlikely to ever encounter it in an otherwise acceptable potential partner. But I don't insist on this: it just seems a reasonable interpretation. Asexual is too.


flea - Jun 05, 2011 12:32:31 pm PDT #11453 of 30001
information libertarian

Can I get an onerous task gold star? I just sorted and filed (and shredded) paperwork about various financial matters, in some cases dating back to 2006. My back hurts.

I SO do not want to go to work tomorrow. This is the problem with vacations.


Sheryl - Jun 05, 2011 12:39:13 pm PDT #11454 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Back from the second day of the folk festival. Nice day, nice weather.