Are these fantastic fuck people, like, fifteen? Because not only is the whole art-sans-safety net thing fucking immature and eyerolly, but no one single fuck is all that either.

And again, I am going to say that I have conflicted views and feelings about Amanda Palmer and just leave it at that.

He's dead, so unless you are ZombieTimsexual, you are safe!

That might be how you're reading the conversation, but I disagree. We weren't talking about "I want my own very specific set of likes and dislikes to become its own distinct label with a support group and flag and pride march!" We're discussing sexualities that aren't the majority, but they're certainly larger than a group of one.

The Ace flag is FUG, for the record.

I mean, it does HELP to figure out at least a general bucket for someone's normal when it doesn't mesh with your own normal. Like, a lot. A lot a lot. For people and for their partners. HUGE SIGHS OF RELIEF! HAPPY FLAGS OF NOTHING IS WRONG, WE ARE JUST DIFFERENT!

I could have some totally tl;dr discussions on how I have some concerns over the way some people in fandom have grabbed hold of the Ace label (no, seriously, if you've had a history of violent childhood sexual abuse, please make sure you have a therapist, even if you do ultimately decide that, yep, you really are Ace; and also, if you have possible hormone issues, for fuck's sake, keep an eye on them -- I don't care if you never want sex, but I do care about your health, people, and trust me: ignoring hormone issues because they aren't bothering you and you feel fine is a BAD IDEA), and how to express that without dismissing a legit variation in the spectrum of sexual desire. (Seen also in the animal kingdom at large, at a rate of about 1% or so. War Emblem, the Derby and Preakness winner in the year of the first F2F turned out to be in that one percent. Hormones and everything perfectly normal. Just didn't have any need to breed.)

But that's sort of a one-on-one conversation to be had over cocktails, and goes hand-in-hand with "Have you MET cis Ace guys, fangirls? Have you? TRUST ME, THEY AIN'T BOVVERED.*"

And then I can explain the patriarchy again.

* STUDIES BACK ME UP ON THIS. I AM NOT TALKING OUT OF MY PERSONAL SAMPLE SIZE FOR THE HOUSEHOLD.

One of the farmers I buy stuff from at the weekly market produced a vid: [link]

It's a neat little thing.

God, I love living where I do and having discovered more of this area.

Good local foods, awesome neighbors, music to walk home to (have I mentioned hearing a marching band practice either at Morganthaler HS or Morgan State, dunno which, in the air?) the lake, the Y, etc etc.

Sigh. Amanda Palmer. Conflicted, yes.

Because not only is the whole art-sans-safety net thing fucking immature and eyerolly, but no one single fuck is all that either.

What amych said.

Hooray, Gud!

I would like to point out that, if he is in fact deceased, this scenario doesn't get any better.

Zombie!Tiny Tim: so much untapped Halloween costume potential.

Zombie!Tiny Tim: so much untapped Halloween costume potential.

I'm thinkin' blow-up doll.

Oh! This is basically the Rent argument I have with people, isn't it?

no, seriously, if you've had a history of violent childhood sexual abuse, please make sure you have a therapist, even if you do ultimately decide that, yep, you really are Ace

This can't be said enough.

I'm thinkin' blow-up doll.

I sense a Buffista Business!

Oh! This is basically the Rent argument I have with people, isn't it?

Er, what?

Though on that note, I never saw it til the movie, and then I thought "These people are way too old for this shit"

I'm thinkin' blow-up doll.

Yeah. And it sings "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" or whatever. And the pitch of its voice rises as the person using it approaches climax.

Oh god, is Tiny Tim still alive? I don't want him turning up on my doorstep with his ukelele, thinking I'm into his groove.

I would like to point out that, if he is in fact deceased, this scenario doesn't get any better.

Fair point.

I also earwormed myself with "Tiptoe Through the Tulips," which is really what I deserved, since I brought him up and all.

Although there are a LOT of Tims out there...

Kon will cut you, if you try anything.

I guess I really don't want to throw down with the Boy of Steel, now that I think about it.

Zombie!Tiny Tim: so much untapped Halloween costume potential.

I'm thinkin' blow-up doll.

I sense a Buffista Business!

I am *crying* with laughter and now have to explain this whole thing to Real Live Unzombie UnTiny Tim NotDrake of my own.