And this veers into the caught/cot thing -- I cannot make my mouth/vocal cords do *anything* to make those words sound remotely different.
I am Tep in this regard.
Nothin'. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind ya.
Mal ,'The Train Job'
Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Burrell - Mar 23, 2011 10:44:24 am PDT #29861 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
DavidS - Mar 23, 2011 10:45:22 am PDT #29862 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And I still say it "twenny."
Now I realize that I pronounce it more like "twunny" - and what's my justification for that? I have none. Apparently I'm just making up shit in my head.
I also mispronounced a lot of British words but that's their fucking fault. "Gloucester" is Gloster? Fuck you for tricking me on purpose, England! "Worcestshire" is Wurstersheer? WTF?
quester - Mar 23, 2011 10:46:54 am PDT #29863 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Wow, I've mispronounced all of the ones mentioned. I'm trying to think of others because I know there are more, but all I've come up with right now are Quay and La Jolla.
Burrell - Mar 23, 2011 10:47:41 am PDT #29864 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Burrell - I'm fairly certain it's pronounced as thought the "t" were a "d'. Don't ask me why. . .
Thank you sumi, not least because that confirms my pronunciation. For completely childish reasons, I don't want Rick T. (my old teacher) to have been wrong. Ever. About anything. (Well OK, he seems to have muffed up his marriage, but marriage is HARD. I forgive him that one.)
§ ita § - Mar 23, 2011 10:48:07 am PDT #29865 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
My very smart dad used to mispronounce it that way as a kid, and now I can't see the word without pronouncing it MIZE-ld in my head.
I can't believe I thought it conjugated "you misle, he misles." I mean, I never noticed that I'd just never seen it in present tense.
I haven't had teachers busting me for any pronunciations, ever, which is just as well. I wouldn't have taken it very well. I did get hassled for pronouncing "ate" "et" even when the rest of my accent got let slide. I was really relieved and vindicated to find out it's an archaic but valid pronunciation.
Today is just not a good day. Just not.
§ ita § - Mar 23, 2011 10:48:47 am PDT #29866 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Fuck you for tricking me on purpose, England!
Arkansas. Let's not get out of hand with apportioning national blame here. You even have a fucking Kansas.
Jessica - Mar 23, 2011 10:50:06 am PDT #29867 of 30001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I can't believe I thought it conjugated "you misle, he misles." I mean, I never noticed that I'd just never seen it in present tense.
You and me both.
Steph L. - Mar 23, 2011 10:54:02 am PDT #29868 of 30001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
Arkansas
Man, that is so true. It's like they were tired the day they named it and just didn't want to come up with an original name. PLUS the pronunciation is like a hazing prank.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 23, 2011 10:55:31 am PDT #29869 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Arkansas. Let's not get out of hand with apportioning national blame here. You even have a fucking Kansas.
Hey, blame the Indians; we kept their pronunciations along with their land!
quester - Mar 23, 2011 10:55:32 am PDT #29870 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Oh, Lieutenant: Americans pronounce it loo-TEN-ent. Why, how do the British pronounce it Lef-ten-ent? Where does the "F" come from?