I'm dubious on meat+potatoes in bread. Potatoes+ bread is just too much for me. The ethiopian somoasas (I have no idea the spelling) I got last week were awesome in their spices, but potato+bread. Ngheh.

Need to ask the vendor if they'll just bake me the bread. Nomnomnom.

Dana, then I'd do a presoak. If you do 1:4 grains to water as your presoak, then don't change the water. Just boil it in that. The grains will soak up a (very) little before the boil.

Grace means we experiment with grains more. Kamut is my fave so far.

I made cake pops, successfully for once, but without the lolli sticks. [link]

I need to find a place to buy wheatberries.

shrift: [link] we usually get this one, though it would be cheaper to buy a 25 lb from Amazon. Some of the Whole Foods have it too.

I'm just going to say that, barring specific health issues, sugar is not evil.

Too much of anything is not good, and concentrated sources make it easier to get "too much". Sugar is a concentrated carb. Added to an already high carb dish like oatmeal, it probably is too much for someone like me already fighting obesity.

Oatmeal is "high carb" in much the same way broccoli is "high carb." Neither one is protein, fat, or alcohol, so they are indeed carbohydrate. And yet you never hear broccoli called "high carb." because it -- like oatmeal -- is full of fiber.

Oatmeal is not a starchy carb like bread and the almighty white tater. There's a reason that doctors recommend it to heart patients and diabetic patients.

So yes, it is "high carb" by dint of being a food that grows in the earth. But the term "high carb" is what's slapped on starchy, sugary, zero-fiber carbs, and it's disingenous to lump oatmeal in with a Moon Pie.

I'm not telling anyone else what to do, though I wonder who exactly something that unbalanced is healthy for.

Oatmeal with dried fruit and maple syrup? Healthy for more people than not. I'd even say most people.

Mind you, every meal does not have to be pure health food. But when oatmeal with dried fruit and maple syrup is described as "healthy" I do wonder a bit.

I don't mean to be contentious, and I'm not on Quaker's payroll, but this is NOT UNHEALTHY. Sure, with a gallon of syrup, it would cause a sugar high heard round the world. But who does that? I doubt most people -- or McDonald's kitchens -- put more than a tablespoon or 2 of maple syrup on their oatmeal. A teaspoon (or even a tablespoon) of syrup? Not unhealthy.

Now, if you personally have that sensitive of an insulin window -- and many diabetics do -- then it's up to you and your doctor to decide if maple syrup, even in a small amount, is okay for you yourself to consume. But to wonder if it's healthy for anyone? That's off the mark.

My issue with oatmeal is that even though I feel full after eating it, I will be hungry in about an hour. I need more protein with my breakfast.

I don't have any problem with McDonald's having oatmeal, though I'm sure it's more expensive than what oatmeal at home costs. I also don't have a problem with Starbucks and Jamba Juice also price gouging their consumers. I'd not get oatmeal at a fastfood place because that's not the sort of thing I crave and oatmeal is so simple to make.

I need more protein with my breakfast.

Word.

Peanut butter for breakfast was a huge revelation for me.

I've been eating oatmeal for the past two weeks or so, each day for breakfast. Then I eat a big blob of cheddar cheese. I'm sure the cheese is cancelling out the health benefits of the oatmeal, but it is totally necessary for me.

We do steel cut, with a bit of local honey (allegedly fights allergies!) and frozen fruit, usually peaches but also berries and with chopped almonds. Everyone eats it, including Grace, but she gets hers via tube.

Then, when I'm still hungry I have cheese.