The problem isn't women in[...]. The problem is society's treatment and attitudes toward women. Period. WHY CAN'T PEOPLE GET THIS. I was already getting ragey because of the startup of Hollaback Bmore (shared some stories) and then this news came out and the reactions were exactly what I hate and UHGN.

I've been reading comments like that all over the Web. They think they're being all sympathetic by saying "It shouldn't have happened," but they don't realize (at least, I *hope* they don't) that by following up with the "what-were-you-wearing" comment, they're basically saying "bitch asked for it." Which...no.

I think some people understand exactly what they're saying, and some think they're being genuinely sympathetic.

Me, I keep coming back to the part where rape is not the victim's fault. No matter what the extenuating circumstances - she chose to wear that, she chose to drink that, she chose to walk there - still. not. her. fault.

Me, I keep coming back to the part where rape is not the victim's fault. No matter what the extenuating circumstances - she chose to wear that, she chose to drink that, she chose to walk there - still. not. her. fault.

Exactly. And I think Logan herself is being very brave. She didn't have to share that she was sexually assaulted as well as beaten, but she did, which is hugely important and helpful to other women who have been.

And she's still getting blamed. I give up.

Grrrr. I keep trying to say something meaningful, but really just: grrrrr.

I'll give up thinking I'll change each and every mind, but I won't give up my rage or trying to apply a cluestick.

I went for the response I did in part because of it being my friend's facebook and in part because it is SO FUCKING DEGRADING that people so cheerfully go to the "she was incompetent" place.

I get why some women blame the victim -- it makes them feel safe. "As long as *I* don't do "stupid" things no one will ever rape me! Hooray!"

I'm just loving the notion that a person who likely hasn't left the dink town I grew up in in thirty years knows better than a seasoned journalist what is and is not acceptable clothing in Cairo.

I remember how a simple conversation about my lack of cellphone with my coworker turned into a 2 hour education session on the awareness women have tocarry with them everyday. My officemate (a guy) had never.really.thought.about.it. Cause he didn't have to.

Me, I keep coming back to the part where rape is not the victim's fault. No matter what the extenuating circumstances - she chose to wear that, she chose to drink that, she chose to walk there - still. not. her. fault.

Totally. The only way to prevent rape? If rapists DON'T RAPE.

It's always something. Skirt too short, why did you go back to his apartment, you've had sex before, why didn't you fight back harder (or at all)?

Between this bullshit and the goddamn various bills that are basically making it impossible for women to have reproductive rights at all, I don't know why being a woman isn't just considered a crime in its own right. It would make things so much goddamn easier.

I remember how a simple conversation about my lack of cellphone with my coworker turned into a 2 hour education session on the awareness women have tocarry with them everyday. My officemate (a guy) had never.really.thought.about.it. Cause he didn't have to.

Oh, yeah. I've had that conversation with many men, including Tim, and every single one of them, to a man, was *boggled* at the things I automatically think/look for/check before I'll get in the car/leave the store/go somewhere at night by myself.

I don't think I have that kind of awareness, really, and guess what? If I get raped, it's still not on me.