Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Jan 25, 2011 12:04:53 pm PST #18907 of 30001
Because books.

Here's a great thing about eating food that makes you feel good

Oooh, I like her.


Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2011 12:07:46 pm PST #18908 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

She's like the Bart Simpson of food!

If it feels good, eat it!


brenda m - Jan 25, 2011 12:09:42 pm PST #18909 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I love that! So sensible.

Hmmm. I don't know. I like it in theory. I love the message. But I think she's coming at it from a fairly distinct perspective (nutritionist, highly attentive to effects of different foods) and also making the word "want" do some somersaults to make it work.

She says this:

And I can only figure that when I say, “Eat food. Stuff you like. As much as you want,” what people actually hear is:

“Eat food that makes you feel like crap, in crappy amounts

And I agree that it's kind of skewed. But I have trouble squaring this:

I eat, without reservation, basically whatever I want.

I like the taste of Coca-Cola a lot. But it also makes me feel thirsty and a little weird sometimes, so I drink it occasionally, along with food, and often along with plain water and lots of ice.

That's not "without reservation" by any definition that makes sense to me. It's with a perfectly reasonable reservation, and one that may in fact make you happier in the long run.

I think the way Jesse described it (eat food that makes you feel good) makes a lot more sense than the kind of awkward framing from the post.


lisah - Jan 25, 2011 12:13:14 pm PST #18910 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Well, it seemed sensible for me, is what I mean.


Allyson - Jan 25, 2011 12:13:37 pm PST #18911 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey what's going on my lovelies?


Amy - Jan 25, 2011 12:18:54 pm PST #18912 of 30001
Because books.

That's not "without reservation" by any definition that makes sense to me.

I took it to mean she had no reservations about eating any one particular food -- she's not attaching any moral value to Coca-Cola, for example. But she also knows not to drink too much of it, or she feels crappy.

And I think that's the leap she's asking the reader to take: Think about what it would feel like to eat cake all day. You would probably feel awful. Chances are you probably won't do that, therefore.


lisah - Jan 25, 2011 12:19:43 pm PST #18913 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

I took it to mean she had no reservations about eating any one particular food -- she's not attaching any moral value to Coca-Cola, for example. But she also knows not to drink too much of it, or she feels crappy.

This is what I understood as well.


P.M. Marc - Jan 25, 2011 12:20:42 pm PST #18914 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

ALLYSON! I fell down my stairs! It was awesome! Well, okay. Not really, but for some reason, I still think it was hilarious.

Try the Edwardian Ball first. I went by the Vendor's Bazaar the other day and it was fab fun.

But, dude. Not Whitby. Gothically important for many reasons. [link]


Daisy Jane - Jan 25, 2011 12:22:19 pm PST #18915 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

ALLYSON! I fell down my stairs! It was awesome! Well, okay. Not really, but for some reason, I still think it was hilarious.

Did you hear Benny Hill-like kazoos in the backgroud, because that might explain that.


brenda m - Jan 25, 2011 12:24:26 pm PST #18916 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I took it to mean she had no reservations about eating any one particular food -- she's not attaching any moral value to Coca-Cola, for example. But she also knows not to drink too much of it, or she feels crappy.

Yeah. But "want" is still doing a lot of heavy lifting in framing that as "as much as I want", and "without reservation".

I think it set my back up because, the way I read it, I see her being in a place that actually takes a ton of thought and attentiveness to get to and saying "but why not just do it this way?" like it's just that easy. Do you see what I mean? I know I'm bringing my own issues to it, obviously. But I suspect I'm a lot closer to the mean than she is, and I'm nowhere near the "but I'd eat cake all day!" place.