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Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jan 25, 2011 12:09:42 pm PST #18909 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I love that! So sensible.

Hmmm. I don't know. I like it in theory. I love the message. But I think she's coming at it from a fairly distinct perspective (nutritionist, highly attentive to effects of different foods) and also making the word "want" do some somersaults to make it work.

She says this:

And I can only figure that when I say, “Eat food. Stuff you like. As much as you want,” what people actually hear is:

“Eat food that makes you feel like crap, in crappy amounts

And I agree that it's kind of skewed. But I have trouble squaring this:

I eat, without reservation, basically whatever I want.

I like the taste of Coca-Cola a lot. But it also makes me feel thirsty and a little weird sometimes, so I drink it occasionally, along with food, and often along with plain water and lots of ice.

That's not "without reservation" by any definition that makes sense to me. It's with a perfectly reasonable reservation, and one that may in fact make you happier in the long run.

I think the way Jesse described it (eat food that makes you feel good) makes a lot more sense than the kind of awkward framing from the post.


lisah - Jan 25, 2011 12:13:14 pm PST #18910 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Well, it seemed sensible for me, is what I mean.


Allyson - Jan 25, 2011 12:13:37 pm PST #18911 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey what's going on my lovelies?


Amy - Jan 25, 2011 12:18:54 pm PST #18912 of 30001
Because books.

That's not "without reservation" by any definition that makes sense to me.

I took it to mean she had no reservations about eating any one particular food -- she's not attaching any moral value to Coca-Cola, for example. But she also knows not to drink too much of it, or she feels crappy.

And I think that's the leap she's asking the reader to take: Think about what it would feel like to eat cake all day. You would probably feel awful. Chances are you probably won't do that, therefore.


lisah - Jan 25, 2011 12:19:43 pm PST #18913 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

I took it to mean she had no reservations about eating any one particular food -- she's not attaching any moral value to Coca-Cola, for example. But she also knows not to drink too much of it, or she feels crappy.

This is what I understood as well.


P.M. Marc - Jan 25, 2011 12:20:42 pm PST #18914 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

ALLYSON! I fell down my stairs! It was awesome! Well, okay. Not really, but for some reason, I still think it was hilarious.

Try the Edwardian Ball first. I went by the Vendor's Bazaar the other day and it was fab fun.

But, dude. Not Whitby. Gothically important for many reasons. [link]


Daisy Jane - Jan 25, 2011 12:22:19 pm PST #18915 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

ALLYSON! I fell down my stairs! It was awesome! Well, okay. Not really, but for some reason, I still think it was hilarious.

Did you hear Benny Hill-like kazoos in the backgroud, because that might explain that.


brenda m - Jan 25, 2011 12:24:26 pm PST #18916 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I took it to mean she had no reservations about eating any one particular food -- she's not attaching any moral value to Coca-Cola, for example. But she also knows not to drink too much of it, or she feels crappy.

Yeah. But "want" is still doing a lot of heavy lifting in framing that as "as much as I want", and "without reservation".

I think it set my back up because, the way I read it, I see her being in a place that actually takes a ton of thought and attentiveness to get to and saying "but why not just do it this way?" like it's just that easy. Do you see what I mean? I know I'm bringing my own issues to it, obviously. But I suspect I'm a lot closer to the mean than she is, and I'm nowhere near the "but I'd eat cake all day!" place.


erin_obscure - Jan 25, 2011 12:24:53 pm PST #18917 of 30001
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

I would also be happy to pimp WGW. I went once by chance when i was living in London, then twice after had to make special trans-atlantic trips just to attend. It really is that fantastic.


StuntHusband - Jan 25, 2011 12:25:16 pm PST #18918 of 30001
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Did you hear Benny Hill-like kazoos in the backgroud, because that might explain that.

Oog. The thought of "Yakkity Saks" being my life-soundtrack. Oog.