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Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2010 5:52:38 pm PDT #1669 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A kiss doesn't mean that he's not asexual.

But what says he is?


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2010 5:54:17 pm PDT #1670 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

A kiss doesn't mean that he's not asexual.

But what says he is?

Movie, or TV? The dialogue I quoted from the TV series is fairly strong, in my opinion.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2010 5:56:43 pm PDT #1671 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

A kiss doesn't mean that he's not asexual.

But what says he is?

And if you mean the movie, there's really nothing either way. I'm just commenting on things I've read elsewhere and on the fact that I find those things interesting.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2010 5:59:28 pm PDT #1672 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, it was the movie I was asking about.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2010 6:04:36 pm PDT #1673 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Eh, nothing either way. I've read stuff elsewhere that talks about it (the movie version, that is), but I'm neither willing to nor have an interest in defending or decrying it.

It's just interesting to me.


P.M. Marc - Oct 24, 2010 6:10:38 pm PDT #1674 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm fascinated by discussion I've read on LJ and elsewhere that Holmes is asexual. From what I understand of asexuality, I think there's a very strong chance of it.

Cass and I, with much discussion on this, have determined our reading is more homoromantically/sexually inclined demisexual rather than strict Ace. There's a LOT of Ace!Sherlock fic, and a comm on it, but the difference in response between the girlfriend/boyfriend questions (and some other stuff) has us reading him more as demi.

I'd also say, from having read the book canon a lot, that my opinion on this is strongly influenced by that as well. There are a lot of people who've read this incarnation as very much gay, but aromantic.

All said, and totally beside the point of the above, you really should see Benedict Cumberbatch in a heterosexual sex scene. He's, err. Yes. An actor who portrays that well. Very, very "I will rewatch this scene over and over and over until my DVD melts please" well.

(It's funny, I find him sort of otherworldly beautiful as Sherlock, but am possessed with no strong desire to drool over him in that role. Show me him with his natural sort of gingerish hair, and I want to climb that boy like a fucking tree.)


P.M. Marc - Oct 24, 2010 6:12:44 pm PDT #1675 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's just interesting to me.

It is! We can continue this conversation! I've been starved for it! Although I maintain, I would really like to see more neurofuckingtypical asexuals or easily-read-as-asexuals, speaking as a non-neurotypical sexual who is deeply disturbed by how often non-neurotypical characters are either explictly or easily read as asexual. As I said before in LJ.)


Dana - Oct 24, 2010 6:21:49 pm PDT #1676 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

(It's funny, I find him sort of otherworldly beautiful as Sherlock, but am possessed with no strong desire to drool over him in that role. Show me him with his natural sort of gingerish hair, and I want to climb that boy like a fucking tree.)

Really? I find him far more striking (and fanciable) with the dark hair.


smonster - Oct 24, 2010 6:25:15 pm PDT #1677 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

you really should see Benedict Cumberbatch in a heterosexual sex scene.

Got any to suggest?

Made the mistake of thinking I could have Sherlock in the background while I worked. NSM. And I know I can't be the only one who went to a "I've spent the last two years building up a resistance to iocaine powder" place on that big showdown.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2010 6:26:04 pm PDT #1678 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Cass and I, with much discussion on this, have determined our reading is more

I would tend to agree that he's demisexual but not so much homoromantic as Watsonromantic.

Seriously. I always said Captain Jack Sparrow wasn't heterosexual or homosexual but Jacksexual, and I think Holmes is Watsonromantic.

Although I maintain, I would really like to see more

I'm SO into Big Bang Theory now, and I dislike the conflating of Sheldon as asexual because he's neuro-atypical, or vice versa. A LOT.

And all of my reading (which has been going on for some few months now, not just recently) has me suspecting I'm rather more demisexual than heterowhatever. Which...is weird to try to process as a new way of viewing myself, but also a relief. And I might come back and delete this paragraph.