Maybe if that were happening in a vacuum, but it's not. It's happening in an atmosphere of actual death threats, murders & "liberal hunting licenses." That's not really happening with sports gun metaphors, and if someone had made such a slip of the tongue, say after an athlete had received a death threat, there would be apologies all around if not firings.
Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?
'Why We Fight'
Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2011 10:21:36 am PST #16515 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Trudy Booth - Jan 12, 2011 10:22:49 am PST #16516 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I dunno, saying that you're targeting a particular race doesn't seem violent even though targeting is a kind of gun metaphor. Saying you're reloading, in the sense of preparing for a second try at something, doesn't seem especially violent to me even though it comes from the idea of reloading a gun. That one comes up in sports quite a bit, "X's team doesn't rebuild, it reloads".
No, it doesn't. Because Palin stays strictly metaphorical.
She is in the company, however, of many people who do not.
This is all very well crafted. The men who created and fund this little "grass roots" movement are smart and wily as their followers are ignorant and obedient.
Kathy A - Jan 12, 2011 10:24:19 am PST #16517 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
I'm taking a PTO day on Friday--yay! That makes it yet another week in which I don't work a full five days; the last time I did that was the week before Thanksgiving week.
I have a good excuse, which is that I have to drop off stuff at the local food pantry, only open 9-4:30 M-F, and I do have to run some other errands, best done during the day, so I'll be busy. But at least I get to sleep in some.
Jessica - Jan 12, 2011 10:24:38 am PST #16518 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
She says right-wing violent rhetoric does not incite people to violence. But accusing someone of inciting violence can incite violence.
Words Sarah Palin does not know:
- repudiate
- blood libel
- rhetoric
SuziQ - Jan 12, 2011 10:29:18 am PST #16519 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame
Captain logic is not driving her tug boat.
Gudanov - Jan 12, 2011 10:41:17 am PST #16520 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping
I popped up my Goggle page and on the top of my news widget was the line "Palin Plays the Victim Card." Hey CBS, that's her entire deck, it isn't news.
Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2011 10:46:57 am PST #16521 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Oy. There's a guy on a friend's FB link arguing that teachers always teach their beliefs a bit. As an example, he uses teaching To Kill A Mockingbird by saying, "When we teach To Kill a Mockingbird, we talk about how racism is wrong." To which I replied that I thought that wasn't really a belief, racism is just wrong.
He now says I'm quibbling over terms...Dude. I seriously hope he's not really a teacher.
Fred Pete - Jan 12, 2011 10:52:19 am PST #16522 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.
In a way, it doesn't matter what Palin actually intended or what Loughner's motive turns out to be. Palin has used violent imagery. Including a cross-hairs aimed at Giffords (among others). And express firearm metaphors.
Maybe it's a coincidence that Giffords was targeted, maybe it isn't. But until we get clear answers, there's a legitimate question of whether the imagery -- and specifically, the cross-hairs -- influenced Loughner. And the very legitimacy of the question means that Palin has A Problem. Because the cause-and-effect issue is out there. And it'll be a long, hard road (if it's even possible) to put that issue back in.
And what's even more frightening is that Palin isn't the worst offender in terms of audience plus extremity of violent imagery. ("Tiller the Baby Killer" comes to mind.)
And in further symbolism, I'm listening to a (recorded) radio program featuring soul hits of 1968, a tense year in U.S. history if there ever was one. Playing -- "Little Green Apples." As gentle (albeit sexist, in its way) a love song as you could want.
Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2011 10:53:58 am PST #16523 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
To which I replied that I thought that wasn't really a belief, racism is just wrong.
Not to a racist.
megan walker - Jan 12, 2011 10:57:12 am PST #16524 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Oy. There's a guy on a friend's FB link arguing that teachers always teach their beliefs a bit. As an example, he uses teaching To Kill A Mockingbird by saying, "When we teach To Kill a Mockingbird, we talk about how racism is wrong." To which I replied that I thought that wasn't really a belief, racism is just wrong.
It's a bad example, but I agree with what he is saying. History is not an objective set of facts. It's a story told with facts. There is always some level interpretation, even if its what you choose to emphasize given your research and what you leave out. Same thing with teaching. You can't teach everything, you have to filter. Ideally, you try to be as objective as possible, but, especially with literature, everything is open to interpretation.