To which I replied that I thought that wasn't really a belief, racism is just wrong.
Not to a racist.
How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?
Jayne ,'The Message'
Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2011 10:53:58 am PST #16523 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
megan walker - Jan 12, 2011 10:57:12 am PST #16524 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Oy. There's a guy on a friend's FB link arguing that teachers always teach their beliefs a bit. As an example, he uses teaching To Kill A Mockingbird by saying, "When we teach To Kill a Mockingbird, we talk about how racism is wrong." To which I replied that I thought that wasn't really a belief, racism is just wrong.
It's a bad example, but I agree with what he is saying. History is not an objective set of facts. It's a story told with facts. There is always some level interpretation, even if its what you choose to emphasize given your research and what you leave out. Same thing with teaching. You can't teach everything, you have to filter. Ideally, you try to be as objective as possible, but, especially with literature, everything is open to interpretation.
Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2011 11:03:50 am PST #16525 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
But we can all agree that one of the lessons of To Kill A Mockingbird is that racism is unjust, right? And we can all agree that that's wrong, right? That can't be teaching your beliefs.
Teaching that the ghosts in "Turn of the Screw" can't possibly be real because the supernatural doesn't exist if you're an athiest-yeah, that would be teaching your beliefs, but I've never even heard of a teacher handling them that way.
Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2011 11:04:54 am PST #16526 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
The whole thing started in reference to this [link]
Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2011 11:05:39 am PST #16527 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
An Ohio science teacher accused of burning the image of a cross on students' arms said Tuesday that he's disappointed school officials voted to fire him.
Well, that's an opener.
Ginger - Jan 12, 2011 11:07:36 am PST #16528 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
"All writing slants the way a writer leans, and no man is born perpendicular, although many are born upright." - E. B. White.
Burrell - Jan 12, 2011 11:09:27 am PST #16529 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Thanks everyone for the engaging conversation and great links. I'm particularly struck by the comparisons to the rhetoric during the Civil Rights Movement.
WRT teaching one's beliefs: I would describe the view that racism is wrong as an ideological position. And yeah, I share it.
tommyrot - Jan 12, 2011 11:11:37 am PST #16530 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
An Ohio science teacher accused of burning the image of a cross on students' arms said Tuesday that he's disappointed school officials voted to fire him.
He did a lot more than that - he was teaching Creationism.
Strix - Jan 12, 2011 11:12:02 am PST #16531 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Hrm. If I were going to burn anything on student's arms, it would be grammar and punctuation rules. Who could be upset with me?!
Daisy Jane - Jan 12, 2011 11:18:36 am PST #16532 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
"How could you tell her that she was wrong!?!"