CSNBC speaker is saying that one of the dead is a federal judge. Unclear if he was there coincidentally or not. Also saying that there was return fire from several parties - again, no idea if that might be her staff or security or just people at the store. But that might have something to do with the maybe up to 19 people hurt.
Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
It's kind of crazy here with the liquor. Seems so weird to be able to go into a CVS and buy Patron and such.
x-posty....
seems crazy here to have to go to a state liquor store! and yet i could still buy cigarettes and the 7-11, but not rum. Boooo.
It's hard not to be extremely angry about the right wing rhetoric but the gunman is probably a crazy person; unlikely anything will change politically. I think I'm going to go to the store to get away from the tv. The news is identifying the name of the shooter.
More interesting stuff from Sullivan:
An Assassination: Live-Blogging
3.49 pm Various Palin sites are frantically removing various incendiary materials - which is both gratifying, but also, it seems to me, an acknowledgment of previous rhetorical excess. TakeBackThe20.com is in meltdown, images like these are being removed ASAP, and Palin's Facebook page simply cannot cope with the number of commenters blasting her.
3.41 pm A local Giffords campaign office had a brick thrown through the window last spring.
3.35 pm A campaign notice from Giffords' opponent last summer:
Part of the campaign notice reads:
Sat, 6/12/10, 10:00 AM Get on Target for Victory in November Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly.
A reader's comments:
I am standing in the aisle at Costco when I found out my Congresswomen, Gabrielle Giffords, has been shot dead up on the north side.
While I’m scrambling with my phone, two couples in front of me are talking about it and suddenly I hear one of the women say, “Well, that’s to be expected when you’re so liberal.”
And the other woman says, “Ohh, so we get to appoint a Republican?”
I did not trust myself to speak. I’m a Soldier. Please remind me what country I am fighting for? At least seven people are dead. She happens to be the only member of Congress married to an active duty military — he’s a Navy officer serving as an astronaut.
We live in interesting times. A tweet quoting Giffords' neurosurgeon:
The chief trauma surgeon: "The congresswoman is not deceased....I am very optimistic about recovery." "Following commands."
I'm just sick to my stomach. And of course my twin sister chimes in on Faceboook along with my conservative friends how it's all about the anger and no sympathy for the dead and dying.
FUCK.
I hate people right now.
Wow, unless the gunman fired off a miraculously skull-grazing shot, she's still going to have some profound brain damage.
Domestic terrorism is despair making.