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Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2010 11:40:35 am PDT #1354 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Matt, that's an excellent description of how oxycodone and all related drugs make me feel, too. It's unpleasant enough to me that often the pain relief isn't worth it.

Dude, I love that head-floaty feeling! t /notajunkie notajunkie notajunkie

Not ibuprofen and aspirin. I have taken ibu and tylenol and aspirin and tylenol before. not sure about naproxen.

Naproxen is an antiinflammatory like ibuprofen (and -- sort of -- aspirin). I wouldn't take it WITH ibuprofen or aspirin, but I have taken it 3-4 hours after ibuprofen when the pain wasn't going away.

And you can take naproxen with tylenol.

I mean, technically, I need to say you shouldn't take any of them together. But unless you do it around the clock for more than a day or two, it's generally not going to be a problem. (I say "generally" because obviously people might have drug sensitivities they don't know about, or they might be slow/fast metabolizers of a specific drug, etc.)

And for the love of god people, and I mean this VERY STRONGLY, if you take any drug, and especially anything on a regular basis, DO NOT DRINK GRAPEFRUIT JUICE. I don't mean "don't drink it WITH the drug"; I mean don't drink it AT ALL.

The short version of why is that it basically blocks the metabolic pathway for a lot of the most common drugs, which means the drug isn't getting metabolized out, so it's building up in your system and you are inadvertently overdosing yourself, which can FUCK YOU UP.

So ditch the Sea Breezes if you take medication. Thank you in advance.


lisah - Oct 22, 2010 11:42:23 am PDT #1355 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

And for the love of god people, and I mean this VERY STRONGLY, if you take any drug, and especially anything on a regular basis, DO NOT DRINK GRAPEFRUIT JUICE. I don't mean "don't drink it WITH the drug"; I mean don't drink it AT ALL.

Even ibuprofen? That's nuts!! If so, I will have to strongly consider which part of my normal breakfast I'll have to ditch.


Amy - Oct 22, 2010 11:43:34 am PDT #1356 of 30001
Because books.

Dude, I love that head-floaty feeling!

I'll be over here not being a junkie with Tep.


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2010 11:44:33 am PDT #1357 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Even ibuprofen? That's nuts!!

Honestly? I wouldn't. I can look stuff up later to see what enzymes metabolize ibuprofen -- they might not be the ones that grapefruit juice loves to hate -- but having seen some really bad shit happen because of that interaction (as well as reading case reports of bad shit at work), I just tell people to avoid it.


lisah - Oct 22, 2010 11:45:46 am PDT #1358 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Well, it's not like the ibuprofen is really taking away my knee pain anyway. I LOVE a glass of pink grapefruit juice in the morning.


Kathy A - Oct 22, 2010 11:48:58 am PDT #1359 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

so it's building up in your system and you are inadvertently overdosing yourself, which can FUCK YOU UP

Back in the late '80s/early '90s, my grandma got sucked in by a TV ad for some supposedly super-excellent vitamins that will cure all your sickness. She took them just like she was supposed to, and there were a lot of them, until she had what appeared to be a stroke. It took the doctors two days to figure out that what she actually had was a case of vitamin overdose--turns out that the vitamins she was taking were building themselves up in her organs until her body couldn't handle anymore.


tommyrot - Oct 22, 2010 11:49:11 am PDT #1360 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Pumpkin Pi


bon bon - Oct 22, 2010 11:52:04 am PDT #1361 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I've never told my husband I am jealous when he gets to take a justified Vicodin. EVER.


Dana - Oct 22, 2010 11:58:24 am PDT #1362 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

HMOG I'm tired. Got to our setup space at 9:15. Stuff didn't start arriving until after 11. What should have taken maybe two hours for me took...7, I guess, and I still need to do stuff in the morning.

I have dinner plans, too, but my back hurts and my head hurts and it will be hard to make myself move. Worth it, but hard.


§ ita § - Oct 22, 2010 12:01:27 pm PDT #1363 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've yet to find a pain med that works on anything but cramps that doesn't also fuck my head up. The search continues.

you're not screaming and rolling on the floor, so how painful can it be?

Welcome to my ER battle. If I cry, I'm a junkie drug-seeking. If I don't cry, it's not that bad. Fuck you, I've had this headache since Tuesday. I've had to slog through my normal life since then. I've been sitting in a darkened room trying to stay awake by reading on and off, and your nurse just left the light on, and I don't have it in me to get up and turn the light off. Fuck you. Now I really want to cry.