I'm just waiting to see if I pass out. Long story.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


DavidS - Sep 15, 2011 1:32:48 pm PDT #29621 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think you or anybody else stepped over a line, Sox.

I don't think the validation vibe is bad either (even though I'm not keen on it personally. Please don't bracket me!). It's more the demonizing-the-other-person element which Cass just articulated.

And I don't think there's any one instance that was egregious. More that it's oftentimes healthier to try to think of the offending person as something other than a FUCKO! Just that it's useful to try to understand their perspective.


Barb - Sep 15, 2011 1:33:07 pm PDT #29622 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

I get what Scrappy's saying and she is, as usual, quite wise. I still think smonster's roomie needed some lessons in tact.


Cass - Sep 15, 2011 1:53:51 pm PDT #29623 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Well, since I was one of the first folks telling smonster not to feed the crazy, let me apologize if I offended anyone. That wasn't my intent. I rarely jump in, and was frankly pretty worried that I'd stepped over some line.

As Hec said, that was NOT over any line, Sox.

To me there's a huge difference in saying that possibly when a roommate asks you not to linger in the kitchen that maybe there's other stuff at play and, for instance, the waitress brought me a sandwich with tomato on it when I clearly said that I preferred no tomato and then her being damned to an itchy flea dimension with no relief ever. I mean, I can take a tomato off of my sandwich and sometimes tomatoes are ripe and I even like them.

It's about scale and realizing that sometimes there are issues (people you share an apartment with and thus must communicate with and learn to deal with each other) and then there are sandwiches that come with a tomato. And maybe several strangers on the internet demonizing on the second isn't the most humane reaction. To me.

I am really hungry.


DavidS - Sep 15, 2011 1:58:53 pm PDT #29624 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I am really hungry.

::hands Cass a really ripe, early girl tomato::


§ ita § - Sep 15, 2011 1:59:34 pm PDT #29625 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't get why it would be weird or unacceptable for me to go off on someone who cut me off in traffic. I'd expect to get cursed out if I did it--it's angering. That's what angry people do. Not chased in traffic, like I have been, but spouted about on a message board? Seems perfectly proportionate response.


erikaj - Sep 15, 2011 1:59:58 pm PDT #29626 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

It sounded like she(Roommate) was being a little crazy. Maybe not as crazy as we thought, although who knows? People can be every bit as effed up as you think they are...my grandma once spent money to have one of those champagne-glass photos taken...of herself. Who does that? Especially a grandma. (Of course, now some Buffista will have done it, felt empowered, and feel like I called her out as a crazy person.) Sorry. (Mostly, I don't want brackets either, but when I feel bad and don't get them, I feel rejected Which you can't possibly know, since I mostly underplay true misery as opposed to dramatizing minor discomfort...apparently my secondary disability is Larry David Syndrome.)


§ ita § - Sep 15, 2011 2:02:31 pm PDT #29627 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's a champagne glass photo?


erikaj - Sep 15, 2011 2:05:08 pm PDT #29628 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

One of those photos where the person's head looks like they are in the bottom of a glass...there was quite a trend for a while...don't ask me why!


§ ita § - Sep 15, 2011 2:05:50 pm PDT #29629 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jesus, that sounds really weird. And I'm scared to google, just in case.


Hil R. - Sep 15, 2011 2:06:39 pm PDT #29630 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I googled and still have no idea.