Thanks, Teppy! I have taken cipro before, and haven't noticed increased pain, but I'll keep it in mind. I usually avoid alcohol when I am taking an antibiotic, but dinner with the in-laws this weekend...
Spike: Lots of fuss over one girl. Other things to do around here--important things. Angel: You know that whoosh thing you do when you're suddenly not there anymore? I love that.
'Unleashed'
Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
sj - Sep 15, 2011 9:49:15 am PDT #29593 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Strix - Sep 15, 2011 9:59:59 am PDT #29594 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Happy Birthday, Nora!
And re: Bitch dogpile, yeah, I try to be even handed, but it's hard to know sometimes when someone needs a full-on Tino validation with invective, and when they need a check/advice.
But, ya know, we're never going to get it right in every situation, and think about how great it is that we even question when the dogpile v. check/advice is appropo.
So, as long as we keep questioning ourselves and our needs situations/reactions as individuals and as a community, I think it's good.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 15, 2011 10:10:56 am PDT #29595 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Oh, yeah - Happy Birthday Nora!!!
Toddson - Sep 15, 2011 10:11:22 am PDT #29596 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
Happy birthday, Nora!
Toddson - Sep 15, 2011 10:13:11 am PDT #29597 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
Maria - Sep 15, 2011 10:14:03 am PDT #29598 of 30000
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Happy birthday, Nora!
People suck a lot, and good people we love sometimes do sucky things. It's nice to have a place to blow of steam about it without hurting anyone's feelings. If that's too... unrealistic or annoying, then OK. Good to know.
I don't think that's what anyone is saying. It's more about the automatic assumption that everyone is just venting and wants to blow off steam, and therefore wants everyone to respond with the most colorful invectives ever, rather than asking if someone wants advice rather than validation.
Because we all truly support each other, the validation can sometimes veer to the beyond reasonable stage. And that unfortunately takes all of the gray out of things.
(Hi pot, I'm kettle. We're both black.)
Toddson - Sep 15, 2011 10:19:49 am PDT #29599 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
It does sometimes seem extrme, but I think many of us are used to thinking that we're the ones at fault and jump on the pile to balance against that assumption.
That's my two-cents worth, anyway.
Kate P. - Sep 15, 2011 10:24:35 am PDT #29600 of 30000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
Happy birthday, Nora!
I do think sometimes we can lean a little too heavily towards feeling like someone who has Messed With one of us is entirely in the wrong, and it's occasionally useful to step back a bit and try to see things from the other POV. But our support for each other, and occasional outrage on each other's behalf, is genuine; if there's a correction to be made at times, it's only in the degree of our reaction, not in the strength or validity of our support. And of course, this is a great place to just vent and blow off steam, too, and there's nothing wrong with that.
And in this particular case, my read on smonster's situation is the same as Nora's: I think roomie overstepped a line, and when called on it, she backtracked instead of admitting it.
ION, surprise MIL visit is surprising! M's mom emailed this morning to see if she could come for a visit this weekend. (She just accepted a new job, having been laid off last month, and wanted to take advantage of her last free weekend for a while to come see us.) Fortunately, (a) I adore her, and (b) she is about the least imposing guest ever, so it's not actually a problem, but it still means we're going to have to do some significant cleaning tonight.
Atropa - Sep 15, 2011 11:01:56 am PDT #29601 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Happy birthday, Nora!
Burrell - Sep 15, 2011 11:29:23 am PDT #29602 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Happy birthday, Nora!
I want to add to the chorus of What Scrappy Said. (I often feel like Scrappy's chorus girl, come to think of it. I should learn me how to do a can can girl emototext.)