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Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


meara - Aug 04, 2011 2:46:46 pm PDT #26879 of 30000

Well, bonny, I guess some of that depends on how big the organization is and how many hours you see devoting to it. I mean, if they have five employees and only get a new walker every six months to a year, that's not a lot of hours on the first half. If they have a new employee every week, and 50 more to do six month checkups on, that's a lot more!

The PR stuff I can't comment on.


DavidS - Aug 04, 2011 2:48:17 pm PDT #26880 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Am I right in assuming this is a lot more responsibility than is appropriate for $20 per hour?

I thought so but (a) I don't know the market there; and (b) I don't know how much you need the money; and (c) I don't know how useful it will be for you to create a work relationship with this woman (Probably valuable, I'm guessing).

How many hours a week would you work?


Ginger - Aug 04, 2011 2:50:27 pm PDT #26881 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It's not so much the hourly amount but whether she's prepared to pay for the amount of hours that's going to take.


smonster - Aug 04, 2011 3:19:21 pm PDT #26882 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

So now I can never date girls, because I will feel guilty for not dating smonster and Laga.

No, that's not true. You're just such a badass I wanted you for, uh, the team I am not currently playing for. It was meant as a compliment to your hottitude and badassery.

bonny, I hate that you didn't get a conclusive result with a clearcut treatment route. Grr. Frustrating. As for the work situation, I think Hec and Ginger make excellent points. I would also be wary about entering into a work partnership, given that you two came away with very different understandings of what you had agreed to.

I'm at a coffeeshop with StW eating dinner and will be working on my application while he studies, so yay for all of that.


Maria - Aug 04, 2011 3:28:41 pm PDT #26883 of 30000
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

smonster/StW and Laga/D are my OTPs right now.

Seriously, the adorableness is smile-making.

bonny, I agree with David and Ginger and I would clearly define whether this is a contract/consultant role or FT/PT employee. If we're talking employee, where's the benefits? Hello, health insurance...


beekaytee - Aug 04, 2011 3:29:45 pm PDT #26884 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

Thanks for the conversation, folks, I really need to get clear on this by tomorrow.

If they have a new employee every week, and 50 more to do six month checkups on, that's a lot more!

It's more this. There are 30 employees and a corporate culture that encourages people to move on after 2 years. She is very smart about this, wanting to keep employees energized and resisting dead wood.

Several new walkers come on every month, some more than others.

The PR stuff could be a full-time gig, as she has outlined it. I am not looking for that.

I was assuming 15, action packed hours per week, but don't think it is possible to do all this in that amount of time.

So much is on the horizon, growth-wise, and I could really help it blow up. I'm worried that even more will be added as time goes on. It is true that I'm good at a lot of this, but I won't be if I have to do it all.

The carrot is that the company is expanding tremendously in the near future. It could be huge, which would make a partnership attractive, but without seeing 'you will be a VP' in the agreement, I'm not sure it will end up being fair.


smonster - Aug 04, 2011 3:32:16 pm PDT #26885 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Sounds like you're pretty clear about what you need and what you would like out of the situation. I guess the trick is getting her to understand that and coming to an agreement that suits both of you.


beekaytee - Aug 04, 2011 3:32:22 pm PDT #26886 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

bonny, I hate that you didn't get a conclusive result with a clearcut treatment route. Grr. Frustrating.

Thanks smonster. It is super frustrating. Just tell me what to doooooo!

I'm really feeling bad about not feeding him right now. I'm getting the laser stare of death. HE feels great, but his gut is a mess right now. We are at cross purposes.


smonster - Aug 04, 2011 3:38:22 pm PDT #26887 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Be the strong mama I know you are! It's for B-boy's own good.

bonny, if you need another set of eyes on what you craft or anything, I'm happy to read over stuff. I'm sure there are others here with more experience in these matters, though.


beekaytee - Aug 04, 2011 3:48:29 pm PDT #26888 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I may take you up on that, smonster, thanks.

My gut feeling is that this is way too much, way too soon. I was envisioning a 'ramp up' where I took over a few duties and facilitated the PR push for this new product launch...THEN took on more as we made sure it was a good fit.

My resistance is that, without some sort of stake other than a fairly low hourly rate, I will be supporting a huge expansion with very little return.

Now. One of the things I know about this woman is that she is ten times the business woman I am. Her follow-through is ironclad, whereas mine is not. She has built an amazing little empire out of nothing. At the same time, there are things, including emotional fortitude, that she does not have.

Even she said so, "The two of us compliment each other so well that together we would make an amazing whole."

I can't say, "Okay, now that you have built this great biz, I want a 50% stake in what I contribute from the start." That would be crazy. BUT, the new growth won't happen the way she wants it to without me. I've already given her tons of free consulting that brought her to the ideas that she is bringing into fruition now.

I honestly feel like I will be doing a VP's work for an admin's salary.

meara, that's a great question about benefits. I don't know what they are, but will find out before I talk to her.

As for the market, errand running businesses on the Hill get a fairly standard $40 per hour.