I have a mother (grandfather's daughter) who wants to be in charge of what colors are fashionable, and cried when I told her my brother's best friend was gay (she couldn't even say gay, she said happy) (thereby delaying my own coming out for a year) (and that was 12 years ago and we still just. don't. talk about it.) and who believes the confederate flag isn't racist.
Also, for point/counterpoint, we could put my grandpa (from mom's side) up against my grandma (from dad's side), who when I came out to her said, "Oh, I know that! I've known that for years! I don't care, it's your personal life and I love you." Never coming out to grandpa, btw.
and who believes the confederate flag isn't racist.
You know, people are welcome to fight about that all day long. What I don't get is how the Confederate battle flag can be regarded as
anything
but
entirely unpatriotic.
It's flat-out seperatist by definition. So you chase down assorted immigrants and communists and muslims and hippies and black power types as seditious un-american threats to our way of life, but someone that proudly flies a flag that was actually factually flown in an effort to overthrow the US government is just a good ol' boy never meanin' no harm? I'll never understand it.
But that's different, those Southerners were Good Noble God Fearing Bible Believing Family Loving People trying to Save Their Way of Life which the God Hating Commie Yankees were Trying to Take Away.
It's OKAY to try and Secede When You are GNGFBBFLP Because it SAYS SO in the Declaration of Independence!!!!!
Yeah, Captain Logic isn't driving that tugboat. The sainted General Lee is.
Or, more likely, Nathan Bedford Forrest.
It's OKAY to try and Secede When You are GNGFBBFLP Because it SAYS SO in the Declaration of Independence!!!!!
I may have just ranted about (my love for) the serial comma here: [link] , instead of doing it in here.
*snif* I feel like one of our pet arguments has grown up and taken over the whole internets! I'm so proud, except when I'm like, "waitaminnit, that's OURS".
actually factually flown
I have to quibble just a wee bit. (this was news to me so I figure I'm not the only one who didn't know)
Flags of the CSA
A rectangular variant of the battle flag used by some Confederate Army Units, now called "The Confederate Flag" or "The Confederate Battle Flag", despite its never having historically represented the CSA as a nation, has become a widely recognized symbol of the South...
The self-declared Confederate enclave of Town Line, New York, lacking a genuine Confederate flag, flew a version of this flag prior to its 1945 vote to rejoin the Union.
During World War II some U.S. military units with Southern nicknames, or made up largely of Southerners, made the flag their unofficial emblem.
Vortex, considering personality and recent unwanted and resented changes in her life, is there any possibility she could be having organic mental issues? Would it be worth speaking to her doctor and having it checked out, just to cover your bases? I don't mean to speak out of turn, but when I dealt on a regular basis with a difficult relative, I did miss signs of an actual illness because I attributed behavior to general crankiness when it was something more serious.
I wouldn't be surprised. I have tried to get her to see a medical/mental health professional, but the closest she has come is saying that she was going to check herself into a hospital in New Mexico for a month. And that wasn't because she really needed that level of care she wanted to scare my brother and I into doing what she wanted.
And even if we could get her to see someone, I suspect that the second she heard something that she didn't want to hear, she would simply dismiss it and say "we both have Ph.D.s, we just disagree". Not that I don't keep trying.