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Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


sj - Jun 15, 2011 12:58:34 pm PDT #23348 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Tea: I also meant to say great pics of smonster's new place!


erin_obscure - Jun 15, 2011 1:17:03 pm PDT #23349 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Just skipped 400 posts because i'm freaking out a little. 15 yo sister is cutting herself. there's more going on, of course there is, but that's all the initial voicemail msg from her mom was flipping out about wanting me to help. i have no idea where to start. poor kid is imbalanced as all get out, an emotional drama queen of a preciously over intellectualized future drop out. Brilliant but won't turn in school work. How the hell am i suppose to help her from across the country? I can't even talk down suicidals on the phone at work :(


lisah - Jun 15, 2011 1:22:04 pm PDT #23350 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Yikes, erin, is she in therapy?


Laga - Jun 15, 2011 1:22:08 pm PDT #23351 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

How frustrating, erin. Is it a comfort at all to know that my niece was a cutter and she's a totally well adjusted mama these days?


erin_obscure - Jun 15, 2011 1:59:59 pm PDT #23352 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

well, got a little more info...after the misery of her as a HS freshman dating a senior against the 'dating contract' her parents drew up when she started HS... she started sexting a college freshman. sent him topless photos of herself. She's 15. He's 19. Her phone has been confiscated and she's been cut off from the internet UFN. His parents have taken his phone and he's no longer allowed on the computer without an adult around (dunno how they hope to enforce that while he's at college but they are definitely PISSED OFF at him.) There are evidently some legal issues. Apparently his father, as the person paying for the phone his son was using, could go to jail for a considerable amount of time if authorities started investigating the pics as child pornography. His parents and her mom are aware, my dad is NOT at this point, largely due to his history of getting all ragey and trying to destroy the future of boys who mess with his youngest. And according to the ex stepmom this particular guy is actually ok, not the sleazebag she was shenangianing with before. Immature and geeky but smart and decent (aside from the sexting, which seems to be a Done Thing among kids these days? ye gods how dumb they are) and the mom was actually willing to deal with an internet friendship and romance until the topless photos started transpiring. AFAIK they have not made it to the internet and likely will not now that phones are in parental custody.

She was so upset by losing all avenues of contact that she started cutting herself (again, it has happened before) and saying things along the lines of "i'm going to cut myself until god brings him back to me, and i'll cut myself to the bone if that's what it takes." This from a kid who previously described herself as an atheist. An overly dramatic atheist, but there it is. She's been vehemently denying counseling and therapy, refusing to get in the car and kicking and screaming. I believe after a long chat with the mom that she will be forcibly dragged to the therapist if that's what it takes, because IMHO she desperately needs an outside voice to help her regain some semblance of control over her life.

Once again, SO DAMNED GLAD i have no kids. And vibing like hell at VA that the poor kid can survive her adolescence.


erin_obscure - Jun 15, 2011 2:06:39 pm PDT #23353 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

And Laga, yes, it is. I passed that on to the mom over the phone and she started breathing again and said "yeah, ok, i used to do shit like that and so did lots of my friends and we all survived."

Of course i'm terrified that she'll go too far and actually bleed out (she doesn't just scratch like i did, she really cuts deep and if she ever hit an artery....*shudder* ). Yeah, i want her in therapy. I think she needs an outsider to tell her all the things she can't hear or grok when coming from family members. And maybe a therapist can also help set up some guidelines to help her get some priviledges and autonomy back in a formal, non-mom-deciding-my-life-for-me kinda way. She spends an awful lot of time on interactive lock down, it seems. Or perhaps i only get the frantic phone calls when it all spirals out of control?

The good news: she is currently at the point in Buffy when Willow starts using magik to try and 'fix' her relationship with Tara. I mentioned that story arc because it seemed pertinent, given how she keeps tearfully asking her mom to make the hurting stop, something thinking her mom can actually do that. Now, her mom is a practicing witch, but that kind of magik doesn't actually exist in her world and even if it did, i believe that story arc makes it fairly clear that you can't just fast forward through the pain and you do have to work through and deal with the consequences of your own actions.


Polter-Cow - Jun 15, 2011 2:47:50 pm PDT #23354 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ergh, erin. I hope your sister can work through her shit in a way that is less harmful to herself.


smonster - Jun 15, 2011 3:43:54 pm PDT #23355 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Oh, erin, how complicated and scary. I hope she lets people give her the help she needs. It'll be a long road but she can definitely make it. I remember how terrifying it was when my sis had her own version of reality and no one, but NO ONE could get through to her.

I ran errands (nearly lost the plot in the hardware store), went to see my L9 peeps, and then the fabulous K & K helped me unload most of the cube. I'm going to eat some leftover Chinese, maybe mop a little more, maybe unpack a few boxes. Found out that the burns on the edge of my bathtub are likely crackpipe burns - former tenant was Section 8 and went to jail. File all that under things I won't be telling my mother.


Laura - Jun 15, 2011 3:47:02 pm PDT #23356 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

{{erin and family}} Even with all the teens in my life I am without any answers. If she can talk to you it could be helpful to have someone that listens without lecturing and judging.

My back is killing me. I'm taking an 800mg ibuprofen, carb-loading with Wheat Thins, and having a break. The girls are watching "Despicable Me".

Seriously, I read this as The Girls are watching "Despicable Me", as in while the rest of your body was doing something else.


beth b - Jun 15, 2011 3:56:44 pm PDT #23357 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

best of luck to everyone, Erin. May the drama be short and the healing begin soon